Atheism vs. Faith

@kellyjay said
Never denied that;

In reply to
@fmf said
We can but speculate when it comes to supernatural things.

@kellyjay said
Not true,

In reply to
@fmf said
We can but speculate when it comes to supernatural things.

@kellyjay said
No, the full point was and is truth

The truth is you are totally inconsistent.

@kellyjay said
Duh, I have been saying as much. What you should be concerned with is the reality we live in. Where what is real matters, and our opinions don’t!

Your speculations and imaginings ~ and your superstition-based personal opinions ~ about "the reality we live in" have no bearing on the reality in which I live.

@wolfgang59 said
The truth is you are totally inconsistent.

Sorry, what?

@fmf said
Your speculations and imaginings ~ and your superstition-based personal opinions ~ about "the reality we live in" have no bearing on the reality in which I live.

You are absolutely correct except you should have said none of our speculations and imaginings, none of our personal opinions can have a bearing on the reality we live in. Because reality doesn't change due to how we view it, so when truth is the topic it isn't views about it are not important, but reality is, that is the only thing that is important. Your continue concern about how I view it is barking up the wrong tree, it isn't my beliefs, it what is real, that is the only real question that matters.

@wolfgang59 said
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@fmf said
We can but speculate when it comes to supernatural things.

Where do you believe all matter, space, and time came from?

@kellyjay said
You are absolutely correct except you should have said none of our speculations and imaginings, none of our personal opinions can have a bearing on the reality we live in. Because reality doesn't change due to how we view it, so when truth is the topic it isn't views about it are not important, but reality is, that is the only thing that is important. Your continue concern a ...[text shortened]... p the wrong tree, it isn't my beliefs, it what is real, that is the only real question that matters.

Your opinions about what is "real" have no bearing on me. "What is real, that is the only real question that matters", you say. Well, I don't think you have anything whatsoever to offer me about "what is real" judging by the things you claim and the opinions you espouse here on this message board.

@kellyjay said
none of our personal opinions can have a bearing on the reality we live in.

And yet that is all you and I have to offer. Personal opinions. Nothing else is being shared here.

when truth is the topic it isn't views about it are not important, but reality is

All you have to offer about reality are your "views" about it. If you say your views are "not important", then that's fine by me.

@kellyjay said
Sorry, what?

You replied to the same post twice.
See above.
Your replies were contradictory.
How do you explain that?

@kellyjay said
Where do you believe all matter, space, and time came from?

I do not have a belief regarding that.
Why ... how is that relevant to me pointing out your contradictions?

@wolfgang59 said
You replied to the same post twice.
See above.
Your replies were contradictory.
How do you explain that?

What do you think I said was contradictory? If I added something to what I said it was because of I thought of something else.

@wolfgang59 said
I do not have a belief regarding that.
Why ... how is that relevant to me pointing out your contradictions?

Relevant to me due to the subject of the op so I asked.