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Originally posted by josephw
Okay. So I'm not getting through. I'll try another tact.

Atheism denies the existence of a creator. So, it's twin, evolution, fills the void.

If either is true, then perception of reality resides only in what one knows through the senses.

That being the case, things such as law and morality are merely inventions of humans and is therefore subject to ...[text shortened]... a better species. What difference does it make. We're all dead just the same.

In a box.
Atheism denies the existence of a creator. So, it's twin, evolution, fills the void

The Church of England and the Catholic Church both accept evolution.

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Originally posted by josephw
Okay. So I'm not getting through. I'll try another tact.

Atheism denies the existence of a creator. So, it's twin, evolution, fills the void.

If either is true, then perception of reality resides only in what one knows through the senses.

That being the case, things such as law and morality are merely inventions of humans and is therefore subject to ...[text shortened]... a better species. What difference does it make. We're all dead just the same.

In a box.
It makes a difference to the people who are about to be exterminated.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
[b]Atheism denies the existence of a creator. So, it's twin, evolution, fills the void

The Church of England and the Catholic Church both accept evolution.[/b]
That's impressive. 😲

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Originally posted by josephw
If either is true, then perception of reality resides only in what one knows through the senses.
How does this change with the presence of a creator? [/dumbquestion]

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I struck a nerve.

You're in a box. I challenge someone to explain how atheism can produce anything meaningful, when nothingness is the end of atheism.

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Originally posted by josephw
I struck a nerve.

You're in a box. I challenge someone to explain how atheism can produce anything meaningful, when nothingness is the end of atheism.
What do you mean by "meaningful"?

In other words, what do you deem "meaningful".

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Originally posted by josephw
I struck a nerve.

You're in a box. I challenge someone to explain how atheism can produce anything meaningful, when nothingness is the end of atheism.
I think it's you who is stuck in the box.

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Originally posted by josephw
I struck a nerve.

You're in a box. I challenge someone to explain how atheism can produce anything meaningful, when nothingness is the end of atheism.
Still clinging to the same non-sequitur.

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
How does this change with the presence of a creator? [/dumbquestion]
Not dumb. It's a good question because it's the flip side of this thread.

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Originally posted by rwingett
I think it's you who is stuck in the box.
Then why can't anyone argue with my points?

Atheism produces nothing. Atheism is a void in reality simply because it has no merit.

I couldn't have simplified it any more than I did, and still there are no coherent rebuttals.

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Originally posted by josephw
Then why can't anyone argue with my points?

Atheism produces nothing. Atheism is a void in reality simply because it has no merit.

I couldn't have simplified it any more than I did, and still there are no coherent rebuttals.
So far as I can tell, there are no "coherent rubuttals" because, thus far, your position is incoherent. That's what everyone's been trying to tell you.

I tried to give you a leg up by asking you to explain what you mean by "meaningful", but this got ignored.

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
Still clinging to the same non-sequitur.
Non sequitur, not non-sequitur.

You had better look a little closer at my arguments. They couldn't be more logical.

Which probably explains why I can't get a decent reply from an atheist.

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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
So far as I can tell, there are no "coherent rubuttals" because, thus far, your position is incoherent. That's what everyone's been trying to tell you.

I tried to give you a leg up by asking you to explain what you mean by "meaningful", but this got ignored.
You don't know what meaningful means?

That explains why you defend atheism.

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Originally posted by josephw
You don't know what meaningful means?

That explains why you defend atheism.
C'mon joseph, even your response is a non sequitur.

An explanation that your position is incoherent, is not a "[defense of] atheism".

Go back and read my earlier post. It asks you to explain what YOU deem "meaningful".

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Sometimes I think you folks is smokin' weed.