23 Nov '05 15:07>
This is a chess site. I fail to see how religious believes and prophecies to come are in any way related to chess.
However, I'd like to add to this forum from a true atheists point of view. It never ceases to amaze me how people can actually believe in a supernatural God, and a dead guy from 2000 years ago (or 800 something for those who follow the writings of the koran - and as I understand it, jews are still waiting for _their_ man). No religious person would accept the santa clause, faries (not sure how that's spelled, but you know: little be-winged girls with a wand?), trolls or stuff like that. Yet, God is accepted by a whole bunch of grownups (millions!!!) as a definite truth.
Who can honestly say that there's a difference between God and Santa Clause, except for what they're doing? Who can say that santa clause is any less real than God?
I don't believe in God, simply because there is not a single event in the universe (that we know of - and what we don't know of we can't debate) that cannot be explained as an act of humans or nature´s chemistry. When we humans hate (which we seem to have a nack for) there's wars, deceit and destruction (we only justify our evil doings by claiming we're doing it for the big guy - or we blame our enemies as being obsessed by the, as I understand it, equally big but bad guy).
When we love, there's justice, piece and understanding.
It's really quite simple. All our emotions, all our lack of wisdom and all our inability to enjoy life is grounded in the fact that we're mere humans. Humans are animals. There's no higher being than humans, and there's no lower beings than humans. Every single life IS a miracle, but not because some guy who never shows his face has the ability to create us. The last time I checked we create our own offspring, and evolutions is what gradually changes us into what we are.
What came first? What was before life? What happens after death?
Who cares? If you claim that a God created the whole universe and that he, for some reason, sent his Son to lead us, then: Who created God? If you believe that nothing was before God, or that God somehow created himself (or is it herself), than you cannot deny the possibility of life springing into existence from an equally unknown state.
The way I see it, life on earth is an inevitable outcome from the combination of lots and lots of time, atoms and moleculs created as the universe came to existence. It doesn't mean someone had to create it (and it certainly doesn't mean someone did it in seven days). I really do believe it's all random events.
If I believe something I have to have arguments. Right? Well, if anyone is interested please do engage me in pleasant conversation about the bigger things in life. I'm sure we can keep it on a civil level even though you may believe that as an atheist I am a follower of Lucifer (unknowingly so perhaps). 🙂
However, I'd like to add to this forum from a true atheists point of view. It never ceases to amaze me how people can actually believe in a supernatural God, and a dead guy from 2000 years ago (or 800 something for those who follow the writings of the koran - and as I understand it, jews are still waiting for _their_ man). No religious person would accept the santa clause, faries (not sure how that's spelled, but you know: little be-winged girls with a wand?), trolls or stuff like that. Yet, God is accepted by a whole bunch of grownups (millions!!!) as a definite truth.
Who can honestly say that there's a difference between God and Santa Clause, except for what they're doing? Who can say that santa clause is any less real than God?
I don't believe in God, simply because there is not a single event in the universe (that we know of - and what we don't know of we can't debate) that cannot be explained as an act of humans or nature´s chemistry. When we humans hate (which we seem to have a nack for) there's wars, deceit and destruction (we only justify our evil doings by claiming we're doing it for the big guy - or we blame our enemies as being obsessed by the, as I understand it, equally big but bad guy).
When we love, there's justice, piece and understanding.
It's really quite simple. All our emotions, all our lack of wisdom and all our inability to enjoy life is grounded in the fact that we're mere humans. Humans are animals. There's no higher being than humans, and there's no lower beings than humans. Every single life IS a miracle, but not because some guy who never shows his face has the ability to create us. The last time I checked we create our own offspring, and evolutions is what gradually changes us into what we are.
What came first? What was before life? What happens after death?
Who cares? If you claim that a God created the whole universe and that he, for some reason, sent his Son to lead us, then: Who created God? If you believe that nothing was before God, or that God somehow created himself (or is it herself), than you cannot deny the possibility of life springing into existence from an equally unknown state.
The way I see it, life on earth is an inevitable outcome from the combination of lots and lots of time, atoms and moleculs created as the universe came to existence. It doesn't mean someone had to create it (and it certainly doesn't mean someone did it in seven days). I really do believe it's all random events.
If I believe something I have to have arguments. Right? Well, if anyone is interested please do engage me in pleasant conversation about the bigger things in life. I'm sure we can keep it on a civil level even though you may believe that as an atheist I am a follower of Lucifer (unknowingly so perhaps). 🙂