24 Nov '05 09:19>1 edit
Originally posted by chancremechanicYou are so wrong. I could say the same thing about you. You have been brought-up in god-fearing US. You have had your ideas inprinted in you from childhood and you are unable to break free from your religious chackles. This sort of quarrel won't lead to anything meaningful though.
You are from God-less Sweden. There really is nothing to debate. You were brought up in secular institutions with secular government policies. You cannot see the reality of a living God unless you committed yourself in doing so, but that would be going against years of ingrained atheism packed into your head by a secular government and people. Am I right/wrong?
Yes, Sweden is a secular state. If I'm not mistaking, so is US. Secular state means to not allow a church or religion govern the political decisions (at least not openly). That's a good thing. That means we have freedom of religion. That means we can think and choose for ourselves. I have. Have you?
I don't think this discussion is meaningless just because you probably won't be able to change my believes and I won't be able to change yours. If we look at history, only discussions on a civil plane will lead to progress. Rejection of new ideas and changes will always lead to extinction. It doesn't matter what culture you're from, this phenomenon can be observerved throughout history. Nature's changing (whether through the will of a God or not), animals are adapting and we all need to accept that maybe, just maybe, our ancestors were wrong on some points. Is that so hard to accept?
I'm sure that in the Roman days, people believed full-heartadly that there were actually several Gods and that when the emperor died he would become a semi-god. We cannot say if that was true or not. We can only choose what we believe in and I think that to limit oneself to a narrow point of view is to not allow for freedom of thought. Spirituality is important, but it comes in many different forms. Not accepting a God, is not the same as being less spiritual. Think about that.