Originally posted by buffalobill
Why is a tree?
Because God made it so!
That is the problem with religion - it attempts to explain things in terms of human thoughts and experience. That if something happens, something else must have caused it and then when the explained causal relationships run out, there must be God. At the end of the rainbow as it were, there lies God.
As far as I' ...[text shortened]... the notion of a God is a cheap and easy cop-out when trying to understand the nature of things.
You have described the core issue that has been an underlying (although unnecessary) conflictt between faith and science since at least the Enlightenment. Curious minds want to know how things work, how they came to be, what it's all about.
Some within the established religious organizations have interpreted such curiousity as anything from distraction at best to defiance at worst. That just goes to show that ERO's have been more concerned with retaining their tenuous power positions than remaining loyal to the truth. History is never kind to such inflexibility.
In further deflating the inflexible ERO's, science has mockingly poked fun at the untenable (and increasingly shrinking) ledge upon which ERO's have historically stood. Perhaps the best example of such biting criticism is a cartoon which depicts an obvious creationist standing in front of a chalkboard full of elaborate scientific formulas. In the midst of the formulas lays the key to his whole theory: "and then a miracle happened."
The slam succinctly speaks to the truth of ERO's position. It had become the don't-ask/don't-tell of their various administrations. But note that I use the word 'had.' Although mainstream had avoided the issue far beyond the expiration date, ERO's para-"ministries" got into the act in the 1970's. Today, 30 years later, the mainstream ERO's are much more involved in the debate.
And a funny thing happened on the way to God's funeral. The position formerly held by ERO's has become the position now violently held by some vocal atheists and/or scientists. Namely, we have a chalkboard full of elaborate scientific formulas, yet there exists this glaring gap.
That is what is meant by the earlier statements. When God is removed as the Creator, something else takes His place. According to some, matter (nature, physical reality) is eternal: always been here, always will be. According to others, the beginnings and endings are merely the opening and closing of an eternal cosmic belching.
Both fantasies insist on taking away any type of beginning, knowing that beginnings kill all theories.
That is the problem with religion - it attempts to explain things in terms of human thoughts and experience.
This is where you are incorrect. Assuming you have lumped the Bible in with all religions, your characterization fails. While the Bible does accomodate man's understanding in explaining some things, there are many things in which no accomodation is made whatsoever. For instance:
"In beginning, God..."