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  2. Standard memberRJHinds
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    06 Oct '11 01:03
    Originally posted by Dasa
    Is God saying something the rest of us can't see, hear , or experience?
    Is it only Dasa that knows the secrets?
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    06 Oct '11 20:151 edit
    Originally posted by Dasa
    I gave this thread of yours a thumbs up. It is the best you've ever written...keep up the good work! 🙂
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    Fail.
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    06 Oct '11 20:38
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Is God saying something the rest of us can't see, hear , or experience?
    Is it only Dasa that knows the secrets?
    It's because the topic is Authority, and neither he, nor the Vedas nor the Vedanta Sutra, have any authority. I thought that much was obvious.
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    06 Oct '11 20:57
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    It's because the topic is Authority, and neither he, nor the Vedas nor the Vedanta Sutra, have any authority. I thought that much was obvious.
    To play Devil's advocate here, the Vedanta Sutra is no less authoritative than the Qur'an, the Bible, the writings of Scientology and so on...

    That said, I think Dasa saying nothing is a vast improvement on what he's offered thus far!
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    06 Oct '11 21:10
    Originally posted by Dasa
    Good stuff mate. Seriously, this IS your best work
  8. Standard memberRJHinds
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    06 Oct '11 22:51
    Originally posted by Agerg
    I gave this thread of yours a thumbs up. It is the best you've ever written...keep up the good work! 🙂
    I guess Dasa has run out of things to say on "Authority".
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    07 Oct '11 03:38
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I guess Dasa has run out of things to say on "Authority".
    I doubt that.
    Anyway authrority comes from within, even if you are submitting to the "authority" of some said literature.
    I think you are deluding yourself if you think it comes from anywhere else.
  10. Standard memberRJHinds
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    07 Oct '11 04:05
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    I doubt that.
    Anyway authrority comes from within, even if you are submitting to the "authority" of some said literature.
    I think you are deluding yourself if you think it comes from anywhere else.
    I must be deluded then for I see very little authority within myself.
    I have not even been able to tell the mountain to go jump into
    the ocean and get it to obey me. I am usually the one obeying
    some other authority, like gravity or whatever you wish to call
    it since your authority is within you.
  11. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    07 Oct '11 04:14
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I must be deluded then for I see very little authority within myself.
    I have not even been able to tell the mountain to go jump into
    the ocean and get it to obey me. I am usually the one obeying
    some other authority, like gravity or whatever you wish to call
    it since your authority is within you.
    whichever way you want to go with that metaphor ,(obviously you've misrepresented me there),it doesn't matter.
    Yes, any authority does come from within. You give yourself the authority to tie your shoes and put your clothes on,etc. You dont ask permission for this.
    Same with religous beliefs- Even if you agree 100% with someone else's version of god/spirituality, you still have to authorize that within your own mind before you can agree with that view.
    This is real simple stuff, dude
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    07 Oct '11 04:161 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I must be deluded then for I see very little authority within myself.
    I have not even been able to tell the mountain to go jump into
    the ocean and get it to obey me. I am usually the one obeying
    some other authority, like gravity or whatever you wish to call
    it since your authority is within you.
    Why? Where do you get you authority form? The Vedanta, like Dasa?

    Sorry, but all this sort of stuff just doesn't sit well with me at all.

    Surely you dont give authority of your life over to some non-existent,(at least non-interactive), 'saviour'?
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    07 Oct '11 04:39
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    whichever way you want to go with that metaphor ,(obviously you've misrepresented me there),it doesn't matter.
    Yes, any authority does come from within. You give yourself the authority to tie your shoes and put your clothes on,etc. You dont ask permission for this.
    Same with religous beliefs- Even if you agree 100% with someone else's version of god/ ...[text shortened]... t within your own mind before you can agree with that view.
    This is real simple stuff, dude
    Sure, but I have to no authority over the consequences of my actions, if it
    goes against some other authority that apparently must be greater than
    my little authority, since I can not change it to suit my will. I think you
    may be referring to free will to defy authority and take whatever the
    consequences the authority has made.
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    07 Oct '11 04:50
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    Why? Where do you get you authority form? The Vedanta, like Dasa?

    Sorry, but all this sort of stuff just doesn't sit well with me at all.

    Surely you dont give authority of your life over to some non-existent,(at least non-interactive), 'saviour'?
    I only receive the little authority that is given to me. In all other cases I
    must obey a higher authority or take the consequences. I do not even
    understand what authority the Vedanta is supposed to have. Dasa has
    never really explained this authority because none of us are worthy
    because of our dishonesty, ignorance, meat eating, or whatever other
    reason he may give. I believe the Holy Bible when it says all authority
    comes from God. God, I suppose, determines what authority He choose
    to give us in this life. As Dasa might say, I am too ignorant to know.
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    07 Oct '11 04:53
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I only receive the little authority that is given to me. In all other cases I
    must obey a higher authority or take the consequences. I do not even
    understand what authority the Vedanta is supposed to have. Dasa has
    never really explained this authority because none of us are worthy
    because of our dishonesty, ignorance, meat eating, or whatever other
    ...[text shortened]... hat authority He choose
    to give us in this life. As Dasa might say, I am too ignorant to know.
    Yes, but you still have to approve/accept the bible's authority before it is an authority in your life. Hence, it is still your "say so" that gives the bible authority over your life, so it still comes back to you, not "God".
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