06 Oct 11
Originally posted by SuzianneTo play Devil's advocate here, the Vedanta Sutra is no less authoritative than the Qur'an, the Bible, the writings of Scientology and so on...
It's because the topic is Authority, and neither he, nor the Vedas nor the Vedanta Sutra, have any authority. I thought that much was obvious.
That said, I think Dasa saying nothing is a vast improvement on what he's offered thus far!
07 Oct 11
Originally posted by karoly aczelI must be deluded then for I see very little authority within myself.
I doubt that.
Anyway authrority comes from within, even if you are submitting to the "authority" of some said literature.
I think you are deluding yourself if you think it comes from anywhere else.
I have not even been able to tell the mountain to go jump into
the ocean and get it to obey me. I am usually the one obeying
some other authority, like gravity or whatever you wish to call
it since your authority is within you.
07 Oct 11
Originally posted by RJHindswhichever way you want to go with that metaphor ,(obviously you've misrepresented me there),it doesn't matter.
I must be deluded then for I see very little authority within myself.
I have not even been able to tell the mountain to go jump into
the ocean and get it to obey me. I am usually the one obeying
some other authority, like gravity or whatever you wish to call
it since your authority is within you.
Yes, any authority does come from within. You give yourself the authority to tie your shoes and put your clothes on,etc. You dont ask permission for this.
Same with religous beliefs- Even if you agree 100% with someone else's version of god/spirituality, you still have to authorize that within your own mind before you can agree with that view.
This is real simple stuff, dude
07 Oct 11
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Originally posted by RJHindsWhy? Where do you get you authority form? The Vedanta, like Dasa?
I must be deluded then for I see very little authority within myself.
I have not even been able to tell the mountain to go jump into
the ocean and get it to obey me. I am usually the one obeying
some other authority, like gravity or whatever you wish to call
it since your authority is within you.
Sorry, but all this sort of stuff just doesn't sit well with me at all.
Surely you dont give authority of your life over to some non-existent,(at least non-interactive), 'saviour'?
07 Oct 11
Originally posted by karoly aczelSure, but I have to no authority over the consequences of my actions, if it
whichever way you want to go with that metaphor ,(obviously you've misrepresented me there),it doesn't matter.
Yes, any authority does come from within. You give yourself the authority to tie your shoes and put your clothes on,etc. You dont ask permission for this.
Same with religous beliefs- Even if you agree 100% with someone else's version of god/ ...[text shortened]... t within your own mind before you can agree with that view.
This is real simple stuff, dude
goes against some other authority that apparently must be greater than
my little authority, since I can not change it to suit my will. I think you
may be referring to free will to defy authority and take whatever the
consequences the authority has made.
07 Oct 11
Originally posted by karoly aczelI only receive the little authority that is given to me. In all other cases I
Why? Where do you get you authority form? The Vedanta, like Dasa?
Sorry, but all this sort of stuff just doesn't sit well with me at all.
Surely you dont give authority of your life over to some non-existent,(at least non-interactive), 'saviour'?
must obey a higher authority or take the consequences. I do not even
understand what authority the Vedanta is supposed to have. Dasa has
never really explained this authority because none of us are worthy
because of our dishonesty, ignorance, meat eating, or whatever other
reason he may give. I believe the Holy Bible when it says all authority
comes from God. God, I suppose, determines what authority He choose
to give us in this life. As Dasa might say, I am too ignorant to know.
07 Oct 11
Originally posted by RJHindsYes, but you still have to approve/accept the bible's authority before it is an authority in your life. Hence, it is still your "say so" that gives the bible authority over your life, so it still comes back to you, not "God".
I only receive the little authority that is given to me. In all other cases I
must obey a higher authority or take the consequences. I do not even
understand what authority the Vedanta is supposed to have. Dasa has
never really explained this authority because none of us are worthy
because of our dishonesty, ignorance, meat eating, or whatever other
...[text shortened]... hat authority He choose
to give us in this life. As Dasa might say, I am too ignorant to know.