-Removed-Spirituality, a working definition: any persistent concern, body of writings, teachings, doctrine, practice, or technique (including yoga and meditation) the purpose of which is to move a person from a state of conflict with eschatological issues towards a state of resolution with such issues.
@philokalia saidAll Buddhist doctrine, including that of rebirth, is upaya: dispensable means to an end. Buddhism is a technique for unlearning suffering. Any Buddhist master will confirm that it does not matter what you believe, so long as the technique works for you.
It believes in the transmigration of... something.
You could make the argument that old Buddhism was hard atheist, but it doesn't really make sense in the context of how modern Buddhists throughout the world tend to believe, and how we can imagine the average Buddhist generally believing throughout the ages, and the tight little web of interpretations necessary ...[text shortened]... way that it tends to be understood and practiced even by very modern Buddhists like Thich Nhat Hanh.
In contrast to BigDogg, learning how not to suffer seems an eminently sensible thing to me.
@divegeester
Here's what you posted on page 3:
"Spirituality is a realm of the supernatural, perhaps the only realm. If there is no supernatural then there is no spirituality. One cannot deny the existence of the supernatural while claiming to hold to spirituality; that’s a contradiction."
I then posted:
"Buddhism is a form of spirituality which does not require belief in, or presuppose the existence of, supernatural entities."
To which you replied:
"No one so far has mentioned “supernatural entities”.
You are another atheist trying to sneak a god or or gods into this discussion. Stop it."
So, I'll re-phrase:
"Buddhism is a form of spirituality which does not require belief in, or presuppose the existence of, the supernatural. Buddhism posits pure phenomenalism and therefore a completely naturalistic means of dealing with eschatological issues."