19 Feb 07
Originally posted by ivanhoeIf rational means .. makes sense to me, then yes, from my experence forgiveness makes perfect sense.
Is the act of forgiveness a rational or (?) logical act from the perspective of your own convictions, religious or secular ? Can you give an explanation or reasons for your stance ?
My reason being that holding onto bitter, resentful hatred only eats one up from the inside.
Have your say and let it go.
19 Feb 07
Originally posted by jammerNow, that is pure wisdom, right there. Have a rec. 🙂
If rational means .. makes sense to me, then yes, from my experence forgiveness makes perfect sense.
My reason being that holding onto bitter, resentful hatred only eats one up from the inside.
Have your say and let it go.
19 Feb 07
Originally posted by ivanhoeIt means that sometimes I will be logical and forgiving, sometimes logical and not forgiving, sometimes illogical and forgiving, sometimes illogical and not forgiving. It depends on the context of the situation.
... and what does this mean ?
20 Feb 07
Originally posted by ivanhoeIt goes against reason and logic for me personally. I tend to hang on to anger and resentments, however, recently I tried to forgive someone whom I was really really mad at. As it turned out, we get along fine now. For me, forgiveness is mostly an effort that requires discipline and patience.
Is the act of forgiveness a rational or (?) logical act from the perspective of your own convictions, religious or secular ? Can you give an explanation or reasons for your stance ?
20 Feb 07
Originally posted by ivanhoeYes. The iterated prisoner's dilemma shows why:
Is the act of forgiveness a rational or (?) logical act from the perspective of your own convictions, religious or secular ? Can you give an explanation or reasons for your stance ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma#The_iterated_prisoner.27s_dilemma
20 Feb 07
Originally posted by ivanhoeI don't really understand the question. Are you asking if there are reasons to promote acts of forgiveness (whether the reasons be agent-neutral or agent-relative)?
Is the act of forgiveness a rational or (?) logical act from the perspective of your own convictions, religious or secular ? Can you give an explanation or reasons for your stance ?
20 Feb 07
Originally posted by StarrmanCan you give an example of all four situations you describe ? ... and do you think that in this context being "RATIONAL" and being "LOGICAL" has exactly the same meaning ?
It means that sometimes I will be logical and forgiving, sometimes logical and not forgiving, sometimes illogical and forgiving, sometimes illogical and not forgiving. It depends on the context of the situation.
20 Feb 07
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Originally posted by kirksey957Kirk: "It goes against reason and logic for me personally"
It goes against reason and logic for me personally. I tend to hang on to anger and resentments, however, recently I tried to forgive someone whom I was really really mad at. As it turned out, we get along fine now. For me, forgiveness is mostly an effort that requires discipline and patience.
Does foregiving go against rationality stating that it goes against reason and logic ? In other words: Is forgiving "irrational" ?
20 Feb 07
Originally posted by ivanhoeI think this is difficult to answer as a general question. Are you talking about forgiving a friend or some stranger who has done something to you? Are you talking about a minor disagreement or some unpleasant act?
Is the act of forgiveness a rational or (?) logical act from the perspective of your own convictions, religious or secular ? Can you give an explanation or reasons for your stance ?
20 Feb 07
Originally posted by Ian68All of those. Why do you want to make these distinctions ? It is easier to forgive someone you love then someone you dislike. Is that the heart of your question ?
I think this is difficult to answer as a general question. Are you talking about forgiving a friend or some stranger who has done something to you? Are you talking about a minor disagreement or some unpleasant act?