1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    11 Jun '11 21:001 edit
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    That is a facile statement and untrue. If your ideology does reflect the truth, the gender bias is clearly stated.
    The Holy Bible clearly uses the words for "He" and does not
    leave it up for grabs. I do not have any gender bias at all.
    If it had said "She" instead of "He", I would of said "She".
    But it repeatedly says "He" so I tell the truth when I say
    "the Father and the Son". It does not mention a "mother"
    or a "daughter"in the Godhead. So there is no need to
    question the gender at all. What evidence do you have that
    Jesus was not the son of Mary, but instead, the daughter of
    Mary? Or what would make you even suggest it and think
    it was reasonable?
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    11 Jun '11 21:33
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I just explained that to you.
    THE SON IS BOTH GOD AND MAN!
    That Jesus appeared as a male is an "accident" in the philosophical sense of accident: it was a nonessential attribute or characteristic.

    As for God,

    Quote:

    370 In no way is God in man's image. He is neither man nor woman. God is pure spirit in which there is no place for the difference between the sexes. But the respective "perfections" of man and woman reflect something of the infinite perfection of God: those of a mother and those of a father and husband.241

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    The above quote repeats the error of referring to God as "he." Instead, there should be no pronoun substituted for the word "God." Also, "wife" is not mentioned because it is not mentioned in the scriptural references at ref 241. As detailed below, certain characteristics of the perfect mother, father, husband, and genderless parent are stated as ways to reflect on the perfections of of God in those scriptures.

    Ref 241:

    Cf. Isa 49:14-15;

    14 Yet Jerusalem[a] says, “The Lord has deserted us;
    the Lord has forgotten us.”

    15 “Never! Can a mother forget her nursing child?
    Can she feel no love for the child she has borne?
    But even if that were possible,
    I would not forget you!

    Isa 66:13;

    As a mother comforts her child, so will I comfort you; and you will be comforted over Jerusalem."

    Ps 131:2-3;

    2Surely I have composed and quieted my soul;
    Like a weaned child rests against his mother,
    My soul is like a weaned child within me.


    Hos 11:1-4

    When Israel was a child, I loved him,
    and out of Egypt I called my son.
    The more I called them,
    the more they went from me;
    they kept sacrificing to the Baals,
    and offering incense to idols.


    Yet it was I who taught Ephraim to walk,
    I took them up in my arms;
    but they did not know that I healed them.
    I led them with cords of human kindness,
    with bands of love.
    I was to them like those
    who lift infants to their cheeks.
    I bent down to them and fed them.

    Jer 3:4-19.

    Too long to quote, God as Father/Husband

    http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p6.htm
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    11 Jun '11 21:51
    Originally posted by JS357
    That Jesus appeared as a male is an "accident" in the philosophical sense of accident: it was a nonessential attribute or characteristic.

    As for God,

    Quote:

    370 In no way is God in man's image. He is neither man nor woman. God is pure spirit in which there is no place for the difference between the sexes. But the respective "perfections" of man and w ...[text shortened]... o long to quote, God as Father/Husband

    http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p6.htm
    After reading this post I can see that you are beyond hope.
    By the way I am not Catholic. I disagree with the Catholics
    on a number of issues. I leave you to your delusions.
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    12 Jun '11 08:25
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The Holy Bible clearly uses the words for "He" and does not
    leave it up for grabs. I do not have any gender bias at all.
    If it had said "She" instead of "He", I would of said "She".
    But it repeatedly says "He" so I tell the truth when I say
    "the Father and the Son". It does not mention a "mother"
    or a "daughter"in the Godhead. So there is no need to ...[text shortened]... of
    Mary? Or what would make you even suggest it and think
    it was reasonable?
    The Holy Bible clearly uses the words for "He" and does not
    leave it up for grabs.


    It does indeed. This is what I was referring to when I used the phrase 'explicit gender bias'. Whether or not it reflects the truth is irrelevant.
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    12 Jun '11 08:593 edits
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    [b]The Holy Bible clearly uses the words for "He" and does not
    leave it up for grabs.


    It does indeed. This is what I was referring to when I used the phrase 'explicit gender bias'. Whether or not it reflects the truth is irrelevant.[/b]
    did not want to hijack this thread, started a new one.
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    12 Jun '11 22:50
    Originally posted by daisychainsaw
    i find i belive properly very few things, especially in terms of spirityuallity the way I see it I want to keep it that way because imi never closed of to ideas because i cant seem to decide what i belive in. it can be a bit annoying not being able to cling to anything and say :this is real i belive in it, but i think its a beteter state of mind;confus ...[text shortened]... beyond possibility and that mabey, somehow there is and i wont ever say anyhting definititively.
    Concentrate!!!
    (And relax🙂 )

    KNOW that your life is yours.

    Come check out my haven with your buddie(s) when you get here.

    glad to see my bad spelling is not only limited to me...
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    12 Jun '11 22:52
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    [b]I think the flow of time is an illusion.

    Why would you think that?[/b]
    Cause it's an 'act of measurement'
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    12 Jun '11 22:56
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    There is no gender bias in stating the truth.
    That's not necessarily true. There can always be gender bias in stating the truth. For instance, I will say that the female body is more beautiful than the male body, in general. That is a true statement, and even most women not physically attracted to women will agree. But it is also a gender bias.
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    12 Jun '11 23:09
    Originally posted by daisychainsaw
    man though, really? you reckon god is a man?
    Yes, they/he do(es). They will talk around it. They'll give you literal and metaphorical interpretations, but yes. They think god is male.

    God is the great Yoni, waiting like a parent with open arms for it's beloved. It's female, if anything.
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    13 Jun '11 01:28
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    Yes, they/he do(es). They will talk around it. They'll give you literal and metaphorical interpretations, but yes. They think god is male.

    God is the great Yoni, waiting like a parent with open arms for it's beloved. It's female, if anything.
    Well what exactly does it mean to be male or female?
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    13 Jun '11 01:551 edit
    Originally posted by JS357
    That Jesus appeared as a male is an "accident" in the philosophical sense of accident: it was a nonessential attribute or characteristic.

    As for God,

    Quote:

    370 In no way is God in man's image. He is neither man nor woman. God is pure spirit in which there is no place for the difference between the sexes. But the respective "perfections" of man and w o long to quote, God as Father/Husband

    http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s2c1p6.htm
    You apparently don't understand any of those verses to be quoting
    them in support of your position. This is ridiculous.

    P.S. You missed Jesus's quote about the mother hen.
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    13 Jun '11 03:37
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    Well what exactly does it mean to be male or female?
    I think it's one of those common sense meanings that is best left to our common senses.
    You could be a bit more specific, but if you are asking what it means to be a male human or a female human, then just check between the legs. That usually gives you a pretty good idea.
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    13 Jun '11 04:35
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    Well what exactly does it mean to be male or female?
    God created them male and female for reproduction.
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    13 Jun '11 04:41
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    God created them male and female for reproduction.
    so sex is sinful other than for reproduction?
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    13 Jun '11 06:44
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    You apparently don't understand any of those verses to be quoting
    them in support of your position. This is ridiculous.

    P.S. You missed Jesus's quote about the mother hen.
    You are mistaken if you think I have a position on this.
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