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Originally posted by @eladar
We are at fault of course.
How is it our fault it we sin without our choosing?

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Are you asking if it is logically possible for a person without free will to be held accountable for their actions? It seems so to me. It depends on whether being held accountable entails actually being accountable., but that depends too on whether not having free will entails not being accountable.

Suppose we who believe we have free will are wrong and we don't. Why wouldn't moral codes, incentives, etc. evolve? What needs probing is whether actual free will is necessary or only belief in free will is necessary for a moral code to evolve. After all, the belief is strong, considering the strength of the evidence. It seems to be strong enough.

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Originally posted by @eladar
Where in the Bible does it say God will not force himself upon us?
Throughout both OT and NT, show me any scripture where God forces any to follow Him! He allows us to walk away.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Throughout both OT and NT, show me any scripture where God forces any to follow Him! He allows us to walk away.
Do you believe Moses had a choice? How about Esau?

Do you think Ishmael or Isaac had choices? How about Paul?

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Originally posted by @eladar
Do you believe Moses had a choice? How about Esau?

Do you think Ishmael or Isaac had choices? How about Paul?
Yes they did, they all had choices.

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Originally posted by @eladar
Do you believe Moses had a choice? How about Esau?

Do you think Ishmael or Isaac had choices? How about Paul?
The Bible continually speaks about obedience and disobedience. How can anyone be obedient or disobedient without free will?

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Originally posted by @eladar
Do you believe Moses had a choice? How about Esau?

Do you think Ishmael or Isaac had choices? How about Paul?
What makes you think they were robots and didn't have a choice?

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There isn't anyone else to blame.

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Originally posted by @eladar
Is there any Biblical support for the idea of Free Will?

If you have scripture that says we have free will, post it here.
Has anyone provided any credible Bible verses regarding free will?

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Originally posted by @chaney3
Has anyone provided any credible Bible verses regarding free will?
Can you obey or disobey without the ability to act as you will? What would be the point of the 10 Commandments if no one could do anything but what they were designed to do.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Can you obey or disobey without the ability to act as you will? What would be the point of the 10 Commandments if no one could do anything but what they were designed to do.
Pharaoh disobeyed the commands of Moses All 10 times, bringing on horrendous plagues.....because God hardened his heart All 10 times.

Why??? It's my belief that Pharaoh would have let the people go, on his own, but he couldn't. God intervened, and sidestepped free will.

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Originally posted by @chaney3
Pharaoh disobeyed the commands of Moses All 10 times, bringing on horrendous plagues.....because God hardened his heart All 10 times.

Why??? It's my belief that Pharaoh would have let the people go, on his own, but he couldn't. God intervened, and sidestepped free will.
He was shown God's power and will, he knew. No one is going to have an excuse.