14 Nov '05 23:31>
In your estimation are the four gospels part of the New or Old Testament?
Originally posted by checkbaiterI find that quite interesting. Then the Gospels would’ve been placed as a kind of “preface” to--or prefiguring of--the new covenant? I think the only Gospel that is fairly well accepted as having been written prior to Acts is Mark (although Luke and Acts are considered to be roughly contemporaneous, with the same author).
Alright...here is my point. Since the word Testament means covenant...when did the new covenant begin?
I contend that to be more consistant with the flow of biblical events that it began in Acts Chapter 2.
This would place the gospels in the OT.
No one could obtain the "new birth" that is, receive holy spirit within, until Acts 2.
Luke 24:44-49
...[text shortened]... am dreams.
(NKJ)
This is when the new covenent began....This is when Christ's Church began.
Originally posted by lucifershammerha.
Well, you know howard - he can't get a word in when a real debate's on ...
Originally posted by checkbaiterI disagree, Jesus was the new testament. didnt he say somewhere that he gives us a new comandment. and that he said the old law was not to commit adultry, but the law he gave was not to look upon a women with lust. I dont know, nor do I really care. you do got a point though.
Alright...here is my point. Since the word Testament means covenant...when did the new covenant begin?
I contend that to be more consistant with the flow of biblical events that it began in Acts Chapter 2.
This would place the gospels in the OT.
No one could obtain the "new birth" that is, receive holy spirit within, until Acts 2.
Luke 24:44-49
...[text shortened]... am dreams.
(NKJ)
This is when the new covenent began....This is when Christ's Church began.
Originally posted by checkbaiterIt's an interesting discussion - regarding when the "new" covenant took effect - how it differs from the "old" covenant, etc. But the separations of the Bible into the Old Testament and New Testament is mainly for convenience. The Bible could have been legitimately broken down into 3 parts or 4 parts. The titles of many chapters and section headings, even the enumeration of verses and paragraphs were added to the original autographs. They are not the the "inspired" parts of scripture. They are added to mainly to aid referencing and cross referencing.
Alright...here is my point. Since the word Testament means covenant...when did the new covenant begin?
I contend that to be more consistant with the flow of biblical events that it began in Acts Chapter 2.
This would place the gospels in the OT.
No one could obtain the "new birth" that is, receive holy spirit within, until Acts 2.
Luke 24:44-49
...[text shortened]... am dreams.
(NKJ)
This is when the new covenent began....This is when Christ's Church began.