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    30 Jul '17 22:59
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    God absolutely forces us to believe in Him, or hell is our other option.
    Of course you can choose hell. You have your choice.
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    30 Jul '17 22:592 edits
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    I like your sarcasm. 🙂

    God would not act like an angry, spoiled child, forcing us to love Him.....as is portrayed in the Bible.
    I like sarcasm too, but my question to you wasn't sarcasm, I want an answer. You know
    the mind of God so that you know what God will and will not do, what is God doing and
    why? Why did a God who sees everything, knows everything, has total power and all
    authority create this place and put in it a people who need fixed and redeemed? Why
    did He do all of this, what is coming next?
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    30 Jul '17 23:02
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    I like sarcasm too, but my question to you wasn't sarcasm, I want to answer. You know
    the mind of God so that you know what God will and will not do, what is God doing and
    why? Why did a God who sees everything, knows everything, has total power and all
    authority create this place and put in it a people who need fixed and redeemed? Why
    did He do all of this, what is coming next?
    I may not have those answers, but what I am proposing is that God wouldn't act like a big baby, as He does in the Bible.
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    30 Jul '17 23:03
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Of course you can choose hell. You have your choice.
    Yes, forced belief, forced love, or hell.

    Sounds fair.

    Especially when He keeps Himself hidden, like some game.
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    30 Jul '17 23:11
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Yes, forced belief, forced love, or hell.

    Sounds fair.

    Especially when He keeps Himself hidden, like some game.
    If God were to force you to believe, you would believe.
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    30 Jul '17 23:15
    Originally posted by @eladar
    If God were to force you to believe, you would believe.
    God does force us to believe, or we go to hell. The Bible forces us to believe in Jesus, or we go to hell. I say that's rubbish.

    The crucifixion of Jesus saves all of mankind, regardless of belief.
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    30 Jul '17 23:20
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    I may not have those answers, but what I am proposing is that God wouldn't act like a big baby, as He does in the Bible.
    How do know you are interpreting things properly if you don't know why He is doing things
    and what His end goal is? After all if He is as I described Him, His ability to see how things
    are going to play out would be far better than say, yours! You know how He created the
    universe at least, what He does to hold it all together by the power of His Word? Do you
    know what He requires of you, and are you doing that little bit?
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    30 Jul '17 23:21
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Yes, forced belief, forced love, or hell.

    Sounds fair.

    Especially when He keeps Himself hidden, like some game.
    Someone is forcing you? I though you had a choice, and you are making that choice
    every day of your life.
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    30 Jul '17 23:23
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Yes, forced belief, forced love, or hell.

    Sounds fair.

    Especially when He keeps Himself hidden, like some game.
    How could God hide from you, you know how a real God acts?
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    30 Jul '17 23:25
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    God does force us to believe, or we go to hell. The Bible forces us to believe in Jesus, or we go to hell. I say that's rubbish.

    The crucifixion of Jesus saves all of mankind, regardless of belief.
    You sound like an 8 year old spoiled brat.
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    30 Jul '17 23:25
    Originally posted by @kellyjay
    How do know you are interpreting things properly if you don't know why He is doing things
    and what His end goal is? After all if He is as I described Him, His ability to see how things
    are going to play out would be far better than say, yours! You know how He created the
    universe at least, what He does to hold it all together by the power of His Word? Do you
    know what He requires of you, and are you doing that little bit?
    Sorry KellyJay, but the God of the Old Testament does not act like a God. He is petty, jealous, angry, and kills humans at will.

    Good thing Jesus came along and repaired that absurd image.
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    30 Jul '17 23:26
    Originally posted by @eladar
    You sound like an 8 year old spoiled brat.
    Me, or God? Same thing.
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    30 Jul '17 23:28
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Sorry KellyJay, but the God of the Old Testament does not act like a God. He is petty, jealous, angry, and kills humans at will.

    Good thing Jesus came along and repaired that absurd image.
    Repeating your error doesn't make it true, it simply shows you didn't answer my points, and
    are not going to let go of your error.
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    30 Jul '17 23:34
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Me, or God? Same thing.
    So now you think yourself God.

    Wow.
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    30 Jul '17 23:36
    Originally posted by @eladar
    So now you think yourself God.

    Wow.
    I am an amazing individual.
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