21 Jul '12 12:05>
Anyone get tired of their religion and go apostate on it?
Originally posted by sonhouseRaised C of E but cannot remember a time of conviction and realised I was Agnostic as soon as I became aware of the concept.
Anyone get tired of their religion and go apostate on it?
... agnosticism is the view that humanity does not currently possess the requisite knowledge and/or reason to provide sufficient rational grounds to justify the acceptance that deities either do or do not exist.
Originally posted by VoidSpiritSounds pretty rational to me. For instance, how can a mere human just categorically say there is no such thing as a god. That would be strong atheism if I have my spectrum right. But it is a big universe and we have not seen a whole lot of it, some telescope work but nothing up close except in our own solar system, where there does not appear to any kind of deity here🙂 It seems to me what we can say is there does not appear to be an alleged deity that is trying to make some kind of connection with humans.
orthodox->deist->agnostic*
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
relevant portion quoted with my personal edit stressed, none of the other descriptions apply.
... agnosticism is the view that humanity does not currently possess the requisite knowledge and/or reason to provide sufficient rational grounds to justify the acceptance that deities either do or do not exist.
Originally posted by RBHILLSo many reasons.
Testimony of why please.
Thanks in advance.
Originally posted by VoidSpiritI am happy with that description, and it leaves me free to use my intellect so as to judge the evidence for and against any events assigned to the hand of an alleged deity.
orthodox->deist->agnostic*
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
relevant portion quoted with my personal edit stressed, none of the other descriptions apply.
... agnosticism is the view that humanity does not currently possess the requisite knowledge and/or reason to provide sufficient rational grounds to justify the acceptance that deities either do or do not exist.
Originally posted by SwissGambitI always thought that speaking in tongues was faked. It sounded like a bunch of gibberish to me and not like a real language, as is told about in the Holy Bible. There are preachers on Television putting on a show by speaking gibberish and no one can tell what they are saying. I am sure God will give them their reward. I have went through very much the same experiences you had. I did not want to sin, but I also wanted to know the truth. I did not want to believe in some fake religion. However, now I feel I know much of the truth, not all, and as Jesus would say, "the truth has set me free."
So many reasons.
The nagging questions that were never answered.
The lack of any personal experiences with the divine.
Curiosity - so many things were forbidden; various music, TV and movies; study of certain fields of science, etc.
The overbearing, ridiculously stringent 'moral' code - no lustful thoughts, no swearing, no women speaking in church, ...[text shortened]... nce I moved away from home, and the social pressure to remain in church was gone, that was it.
Originally posted by RJHindsRJH your back, did you miss us?
I always thought that speaking in tongues was faked. It sounded like a bunch of gibberish to me and not like a real language, as is told about in the Holy Bible. There are preachers on Television putting on a show by speaking gibberish and no one can tell what they are saying. I am sure God will give them their reward. I have went through very much the s ...[text shortened]... I feel I know much of the truth, not all, and as Jesus would say, "the truth has set me free."
Originally posted by sonhouseI went from the youthful total faith as a Roman Catholic toward non-belief starting at about age 14. During parts of my life I would call myself an agnostic and at other times a strong atheist. Now I don't feel that any label really fits, except non-theist (in cases where the deity is asserted to be a separate individual person.) I think a defining property of a true deity would be ineffability. Now, when I look inside myself, I find I have no faith or belief in any such deity as "existing," and am OK with that. I don't have any particular reasons or justifications in mind, for what I am now. I am interested in theism as a part of human culture, and am interested in philosophical issues that it seeks to address, like morality and meaning.
Anyone get tired of their religion and go apostate on it?
Originally posted by JS357How do you account for the information language in the DNA of living cells? Do you just chalk it up to the religion of evolution and don't think anymore about it?
I went from the youthful total faith as a Roman Catholic toward non-belief starting at about age 14. During parts of my life I would call myself an agnostic and at other times a strong atheist. Now I don't feel that any label really fits, except non-theist (in cases where the deity is asserted to be a separate individual person.) I think a defining property of d am interested in philosophical issues that it seeks to address, like morality and meaning.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI run out of comments on the chess forum and its Saturday and I am bored waiting for someone to move. I don't intend to come back and start creating new treads, if that is what you mean. But I haven't been run off from RHP as yet. However, I was told I should go play on chess.com for they have a program that checks for cheaters. I am thinking about doing it.
RJH your back, did you miss us?
Originally posted by RJHindsI play on chess.com, blitz chess, 10 minute games, let me know if you join and ill give
I run out of comments on the chess forum and its Saturday and I am bored waiting for someone to move. I don't intend to come back and start creating new treads, if that is what you mean. But I haven't been run off from RHP as yet. However, I was told I should go play on chess.com for they have a program that checks for cheaters. I am thinking about doing it.