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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
(1 Timothy 4:7) . . .But turn down the false stories which violate what is holy and which
old women tell. . .

to what kind of stories was Paul referring, if you know anything about it?
Presumably "false stories" are lies.

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Originally posted by FMF
It's about what you have said to me, about yourself, in this discussion. You said that the Bible condemned it. But you also said that you don't personally condemn it. This clear inconsistency strikes me as being absolutely fundamental. Can you explain it?
yes, its termed the faculty of human conscience.

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Originally posted by FMF
Presumably "false stories" are lies.
you might like to try again. 'Stories which old women tell', relates to fiction or non
fiction?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you might like to try again. 'Stories which old women tell', relates to fiction or non
fiction?
One wonders why Paul mentioned "old women". Very specific. he can't possibly have had the whole of literature and fictional writing in mind. Do you?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes, its termed the faculty of human conscience.
So, according to your conscience you don't personally condemn it although, as you said, the Bible does condemn it. Is that how "the faculty of human conscience" applies in this case? The Bible condemns something but you don't. Is that what you mean?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
'Stories which old women tell', relates to fiction or non
fiction?
It says "false stories". Surely "false stories" are lies. You don't contend that all fiction is "lies" do you?

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Personally I think that robbie has made one or two pronouncements on this thread that he doesn't really want to stand by, on reflection, but twisting and fumbling - while not perfect - is favorable in his mind to admitting that he got it slightly wrong and that he has produced some "ambiguous responses"

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Originally posted by FMF
So, according to your conscience you don't personally condemn it although, as you said, the Bible does condemn it. Is that how "the faculty of human conscience" applies in this case? The Bible condemns something but you don't. Is that what you mean?
I went to see Bravheart, i walked out of the cinema at the point where his wife was
tied to a post and had her throat slit, to me, it was excessively violent. I know that
scripture condemns the man who loves violence,

(Psalm 11:5) . . .Jehovah himself examines the righteous one as well as the wicked
one, And anyone loving violence His soul certainly hates.

thus, in harmony with my conscience and my understanding of Gods perspective, I
could not in good conscience, view the rest of that film, that is how it works, one
takes a Biblical principle and weighs up its import, through the process of
discernment, as to what is good and proper from Gods standpoint and how it reflects
upon our standing as Christians.

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again, its not about me.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I went to see Bravheart, i walked out of the cinema at the point where his wife was
tied to a post and had her throat slit, to me, it was excessively violent. I know that
scripture condemns the man who loves violence,

(Psalm 11:5) . . .Jehovah himself examines the righteous one as well as the wicked
one, And anyone loving violence His soul ...[text shortened]... t is good and proper from Gods standpoint and how it reflects
upon our standing as Christians.
Do you believe the Bible condemns films like Braveheart?

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Originally posted by FMF
It says "false stories". Surely "false stories" are lies. You don't contend that all fiction is "lies" do you?
why dont you research the verse FMF, it may just save you from fabricating untrue
stories yourself.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
again, its not about me.
It's about your posts. It's about what you claim, and then what you claim you have and haven't said.

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Originally posted by FMF
Do you believe the Bible condemns films like Braveheart?
It condemns violence and those who love violence. It is up to the individual, according
to the dictates of their conscience, whether they will view it. It appeared to me to be
excessively violent and nationalistic.

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Originally posted by FMF
It's about your posts. It's about what you claim, and then what you claim you have and haven't said.
its not about me personally.