Calling Out Christianity

moonbus,

The letter of Second Corinthians is where Paul labors to explain that the glory of God in the new covenant is more than just something on the skin put there by God. But it is from the inward divine life indwelling the new covenant participants.

Paul explains the deeper glory emanating from inward divine life in the new covenant from the shinning just up the face of Moses, ie. when he was on the mountain with God for forty days.

Read and come back to discuss with me Second Corinthians 2:12 -3:11.

@sonship said
I know how to study the word of God and finally be persuaded.
And I know how to fellowship with people who do not quickly degenerate into insults to conceal the fact that they're totally incompetent to discuss things like this.

my bolding

The closest Protestants come is Wesley’s teaching on Christian Perfection, although variations were taught by a few lesser-known teachers like Witness Lee and John Robert Stevens. In 1975 the Christian Literature Crusade published an excellent book, Destined for the Throne, by Paul Billheimer. Billheimer’s book, however, was too close to “heresy” for the taste of American evangelicals, and Billy Graham assisted in the publication of a watered-down version in 2005. Deification, which is based squarely on scripture, is considered heresy by various cult watch and Christian apologists. I believe that the doctrine’s Mormon expression is among the top reasons for the virtual refusal of Protestant leaders to teach deification, despite its strong Biblical foundation. One popular denunciation of deification was Neil Duddy’s The God-Men: An Inquiry into Witness Lee and the Local Church (IVP, 1981).

Biblical Foundations of Deification: John 17
Sometimes called “Johannine Mysticism,” deification is seen most clearly in the phrase “in Christ,” which occurs in the gospel and the letters. To my mind, the clearest statement is in John 17.

I ask not only on behalf of these, but also on behalf of those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given them, so that they may be one, as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become completely one, so that the world may know that you have sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. (John 17)

Moonbus,

Continued quote from https://biblethumpingliberal.com/2011/10/28/god-became-man-that-man-might-become-god/

Biblical Foundations of Deification: Pleroma (fullness, πληρωμα )

The second Biblical description of the deification of the Church is sprinkled through Ephesians and Colossians, and relates to the Pauline use of the word fullness, which in Greek is πληρωμα, or pleroma. The word occurs several times in these letters, and we catch a glimpse (comparing scripture with scripture) of one of the mysteries of God that is, in the sense of inspiring awe, awesome.

First, pleroma is used to describe the deity of Christ. The statement, generally agreed to be one of the strongest statements of the full deity of Christ in the Greek scriptures, is Colossians 1:19: In Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form. This, as I said, is one of the strongest, single affirmations of the deity of Christ in the Bible.

Then we have pleroma is applied to the Church, twice in Ephesians as a future reality, and twice in Colossians as a present reality.

@sonship said
my bolding

[quote] The closest Protestants come is Wesley’s teaching on Christian Perfection, although variations were taught by a few lesser-known teachers like Witness Lee and John Robert Stevens. [b] In 1975 the Christian Literature Crusade published an excellent book, Destined for the Throne, by Paul Billheimer. Billheimer’s book, however, was too close to “heresy” for ...[text shortened]... came-man-that-man-might-become-god/

( not an article from any co-worker of the local churches )

@rajk999 said
What a deceitful piece of garbage. A total twisting of John 17... inserting words that are not there. Why not just quote verbatim what the bible has in John 17. You are a sick, evil man sonship. Stop twisting the bible.

@josephw said
Take a look in the mirror Rajk.

@rajk999 said
Got something of substance instead of snide remarks, then post it, coward

@josephw said
Too deep for you?

Matthew 15:18
But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

Rajk
"What a deceitful piece of garbage. You are a sick, evil man sonship."

James 3:8
But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

1 Peter 3;10
For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

Sinking in yet?

@rajk999 said
If you think the teachings of Christ is about condoning and supporting Satanic doctrines like what sonship is posting, then you are a damn fool as well. This is why Christianity has gone totally astray from Christ. Mouth worshippers like you tell people to profess faith and do NOTHING else. They are saved and can sin all they like. You are joke.

@josephw said
You're the only one saying "Mouth worshippers like you tell people to profess faith and do NOTHING else. They are saved and can sin all they like."

None of the Christians in this forum are promoting what you accuse them of. We never said that. We never said we believe that. You made it up and are projecting that into the discussion for no reason at all. It's called ...[text shortened]... ll be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

@rajk999 said
Who said I was angry and who said you are my brother?. Brothers in Christ promote and keep the commandments of Christ. Not once in the last decade that I have read your posts have you once told anyone about the commandments of Christ and that they should keep them. You are not a brother in Christ. You are a church Christian who promotes a doctrine alien to what Jesus preached.

@josephw said
Have it your way Rajk.

@sonship said
moonbus,

The letter of Second Corinthians is where Paul labors to explain that the glory of God in the new covenant is more than just something on the skin put there by God. But it is from the inward divine life indwelling the new covenant participants.

Paul explains the deeper glory emanating from inward divine life in the new covenant from the s ...[text shortened]... r forty days.

Read and come back to discuss with me Second Corinthians 2:12 -3:11.