Christians, the word of God says that the one begotten of God has God's life seed abiding in him. The presence of this seed is the very factor that enable the Christian to overcome sin because its NATURE is not to sin.
That SEED is imparted into the believer to grow, spread its life and influence, enable, empower, premeate with its divine nature the believer's being.
"Everyone who has been begotten of God does not practice sin . . . "
"WHY IS THAT APOSTLE JOHN ?"
"Everyone who has been begotten of God does not practice sin BECAUSE . . . His SEED abides in him; abd he CANNOT sin, because he has been begotten of God." (1 John 3:9)
You decide, O Christian, who you want to follow - the Bible or the atheist who says God does not exist.
I decided who I am going to follow.
That divine SEED is the factor that makes God's life MY possession.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIt is abundantly clear that sonship has ZERO support for this ridiculous doctrine. The fact that not even fellow Christians are supporting him is what is pissing him off.
Christians actually has 3 options.
1. Believe the atheist
2. Believe the Bible
3. Believe the non-biblical claims you are making here
Christians -
Who wrote the epistle of First John?.
Two guesses.
The initials of one is WL. (Witness Lee)
The initials of the other are AJ. (Apostle John)
Which person wrote this sentence ?
"Everyone who has been begotten of God does not practice sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been begotten of God."
Who wrote that ?
@sonship saidChristians -
Christians -
Who wrote the epistle of First John?.
Two guesses.
The initials of one is WL. (Witness Lee)
The initials of the other are AJ. (Apostle John)
Which person wrote this sentence ?
"Everyone who has been begotten of God does not practice sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been begotten of God."
Who wrote that ?
Who stuck in the word 'deified' the epistle of First John?.
Two guesses.
The initials of one is WL. (Witness Lee)
The initials of the other are AJ. (Apostle John)
@ghost-of-a-duke saidAnd he is getting more and more abusive every day. Makes you wonder what is the driving force behind this doctrine and why is it so important to him to convince Christians that he is right?
And he's tried every trick in the book, but still to no avail.
Christians, which one of these claims is non-biblical ?
" . . . His seed abides in him . . . he has been begotten of God." (see 1 John 3:9)
" . . . you might become partakers of the divine nature . . . " (see 2 Peter. 1:4)
Both verses can be found in the Bible.
Which one or both are not biblical?
@sonship saidWell that's kind of the point sonship. You take biblical passages and add stuff to them. Christians are not objecting to John or Peter. They are objecting to you twisting their words and adding things that simply aren't there. (Like deification).
Christians, which one of these claims is non-biblical ?
" . . . His seed abides in him . . . he has been begotten of God." (see 1 John 3:9)
" . . . you might become partakers of the divine nature . . . " (see 2 Peter. 1:4)
Both verses can be found in the Bible.
Which one or both are not biblical?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidWhich Christians in particular, Atheist Paladin?
Well that's kind of the point sonship. You take biblical passages and add stuff to them. Christians are not objecting to John or Peter. They are objecting to you twisting their words and adding things that simply aren't there. (Like deification).
@ghost-of-a-duke saidBut the man has redefined 'deification'.
Well that's kind of the point sonship. You take biblical passages and add stuff to them. Christians are not objecting to John or Peter. They are objecting to you twisting their words and adding things that simply aren't there. (Like deification).
We need to go with the new WitlessNee Dicksionary.
The atheist says no trick in the book avails.
Believers, the Apostle John ALREADY SAW YOU . . . I mean YOU O Christian in the New Jerusalem. John from the high peak of some great mountain in Revelation 21,22 ALREADY SAW YOU THERE.
From the standpoint of God who transcends time He already showed His servant John you and I as saved Christians in the New Jerusalem.
That city is the deified humanity made to be the eternal dwelling place of God and the Wife of the God-man Jesus meaning she matches Him.
To God's viewpoint you have already been glorified with His permeating, saturating, filling divine nature.
" And those whom He predestinated,
these He also called;
and those whom He called,
these He also justrified;
and those whom He justified,'
these He also glorified." (Rom. 8:30)
While the poor atheist gnashes his teeth at the oracles of God, God deems it all already having taken place in His transcendent view.
He has already seen you "SWALLOWED UP BY [DIVINE] LIFE" (2 Cor. 5:4) .
No tricks are needed.
To God's transcendent viewyou are already made God in life and nature and
expression but not in His Godhead as the New Jerusalem.
The atheist, if he doesn't turn to repent and believe in Christ, will spend eternity hating himself that he neglected so great a love and so great a salvation.