not sure you are really tackling my point, it seems like more of general statement about your discomfort with modern times.
Maybe you saw no response to your point. And I only have a little time now.
But I feel comfortable in ANY age. That is ANY age in which I can know the resurrected and available Lord Jesus Christ. The AGE doesn't matter because He said -
"All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and disciple all nations ... And behold, I am with you all the days until the consummation of the age."
The passing of the ages for the last 2,000 some years have only gone to demonstrate the durability of the Gospel. I feel quite honored that in this modern age I can witness that the Gospel of Christ still prevails against attacks from within the church and from without the church, whether outward persecution by flame or inward welcoming party designed to dilute the faith meshing it into the world.
You assume that I long for another time in the past. I am merely noting the downward moral decline in many instances.
You know if you stay in a room full of people eating garlic eventually the stench will not bother you. Maybe you are simply desensitized to notice the moral rot going on in many areas around you. You got use to it.
i would say this to you. when were things 'right'?
Since the fall of man nothing has been completely right. Nice try.
Some things have been more right. And to be fair some things may have been made more right.
Since I am a bible believer I believe that God is keeping the lid on the can and sovereignly keeping things from going completely to pot. But one day His preventive hand will be withdrawn as in the days of Noah.
the longer we live the further the more society changes and the stranger it seems to us. you rail dont like x or y because it aint like when you were a kid.
In many cases X and Y ARE off kilter. A realist would recognize that.
How many cases of a guy busting into a school and unloading a machine gun on innocent little children did you have in say, 1920 ?
Do not take this to be a longing for the Good Old Days. Lynchings and gun play was also around in the earlier part of the 20th century. I think we can recognize the problems of that age and the problems of this age, which in some cases are more severe.
I am not teaching any golden age of innocence. But many of us can see the decline without excusing it with "boys will be boys".
but when you were a kid your grandpa would complain because things were better when he was a kid and his grandpa felt the same.
In my grand dad's day, even in my kids days, if you got into trouble the neighborhood friends of the family might scold you or tell your parents.
Today, the tendency is to mind your own business. And there is maybe only ONE parent - likely some single mom, to tell. And you BETTER not lay your hands on someone else's child.
A tragic story: I knew a kid whose mother refused to discipline. He got into trouble in school with the teachers all the time. But the mother would go down every time and fight with the teachers. To her that kid could do not wrong in any way. She never restrained him and it was always the fault of the other kids or teachers.
One day he brought a gun to school (true story now). They called the police. He runs with his gun. He fires his gun on one of the police.
The last thing the poor mother saw was her child riddled with police bullets dying in her arms. No one warned him that it was virtual suicide to shoot at a police officer. So she came to the school. Too late to discipline the poor kid now. Filled with bullets he grasps his last breath looking up into his protective mother's eyes.
I don't know. Maybe she had an overdose of Dr. Spock's permissivist child rearing.
My kids, who I rarely skanked, I made sure understood. I hit you on your butt. But if you go out here and mess up too bad, the cop isn't going to hit you on your behind. He's going hit you in the scull.
Sometimes I spanked on the butt son just so he might not get cracked in the scull latter by some cop for acting up.
so when did we have it right? when were things better?
Do not argue by going to the opposite extreme.
From the beginning I conceded SOME things I think are better now.
You are trying to push me into thinking about a problem free society in the past. We all know there is no such thing.
By now you should be able to tell me about mass shootings in public places like schools, colleges, movie houses 100 years ago.
Somehow, "Well, things have always be rough" doesn't make it all seem right.
you complain because there is sex on tv. i see no immortality in sex on tv.
Maybe you're too dulled to think anything is wrong with it.
Maybe you've been in the garlic room too long and the stench doesn't bother you. If you're expecting me to admire how unsanctimonious you are, I'm not going to be impressed.
your grandpa probably thought elvis shaking his hips was too much,
Elvis is my young days. My grand father would have been seeing Mr. Bojangles.
"Elvis the Pelvis" was a little foretaste.
Put aside for a moment the theatrics and consider just the lyrics of some of the pop songs and rap. Next I expect you to tell me that cop killing lyrics and degradation of women as hoe this and bitch that pouring into the highschooler's earplugs has always been.
Things have gone down hill in many areas of morality.
did elvis corrupt society? did the beatles? his grandpa probably thought women wearing bikinis was corrupting society.
Not single handedly of course. John Lennon wanted to help things along by publishing pictures of him and his wife in their most intimate moments in the nude. Even his band mate Paul McCarthy didn't agree with that.
You see the Woodstock movie? You see the guy from, I think, Country Joe and the Fish, screaming to hundred thousand young people -
"Give me an F! Give me a U! Give me a C! Give me a K! What's that spell !! What's that spell! What's that spell!! "
Awe. just a little innocent fun right ? Or was it an attempt to incite a huge orgy of proportions not seen since the degradation of the Roman Empire.