02 Mar 11
Isaiah was told: “Look! The day of Jehovah itself is coming, cruel both with fury and with burning anger.” (Isa 13:9) “That day is a day of fury, a day of distress and of anguish, a day of storm and of desolation, a day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick gloom.” (Zep 1:15) During such a time of trouble, one’s money is absolutely worthless. “Into the streets they will throw their very silver . . . Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to deliver them in the day of Jehovah’s fury.”—Eze 7:19; Zep 1:18.
A sense of urgency is attached to the day of Jehovah by the prophets, who repeatedly warned of its nearness. “The great day of Jehovah is near. It is near, and there is a hurrying of it very much.” (Zep 1:14) “Alas for the day; because the day of Jehovah is near.” “Let all the inhabitants of the land get agitated; for the day of Jehovah is coming, for it is near!”—Joe 1:15; 2:1, 2.
02 Mar 11
Originally posted by galveston75How can you string together Zep 1:15 followed by Eze 7:19; then back to Zep 1:18 without even breaking a sweat?
Isaiah was told: “Look! The day of Jehovah itself is coming, cruel both with fury and with burning anger.” (Isa 13:9) “That day is a day of fury, a day of distress and of anguish, a day of storm and of desolation, a day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick gloom.” ( During such a time of trouble, one’s money is absolutely worthless ...[text shortened]... s of the land get agitated; for the day of Jehovah is coming, for it is near!”—Joe 1:15; 2:1, 2.
03 Mar 11
Originally posted by galveston75So you good for a long-term loan?
Isaiah was told: “Look! The day of Jehovah itself is coming, cruel both with fury and with burning anger.” (Isa 13:9) “That day is a day of fury, a day of distress and of anguish, a day of storm and of desolation, a day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick gloom.” (Zep 1:15) During such a time of trouble, one’s money is absolutely ...[text shortened]... s of the land get agitated; for the day of Jehovah is coming, for it is near!”—Joe 1:15; 2:1, 2.
03 Mar 11
Originally posted by galveston75I'm getting agitated.
Isaiah was told: “Look! The day of Jehovah itself is coming, cruel both with fury and with burning anger.” (Isa 13:9) “That day is a day of fury, a day of distress and of anguish, a day of storm and of desolation, a day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick gloom.” (Zep 1:15) During such a time of trouble, one’s money is absolutely ...[text shortened]... s of the land get agitated; for the day of Jehovah is coming, for it is near!”—Joe 1:15; 2:1, 2.
I didn't know there was a 'Joe' book in the Bible. 🙂
03 Mar 11
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Originally posted by galveston75Simply watching a Soap Opera about the rich and famous will tell you that money doesn't solve everything. But it sure is nice to have!
Isaiah was told: “Look! The day of Jehovah itself is coming, cruel both with fury and with burning anger.” (Isa 13:9) “That day is a day of fury, a day of distress and of anguish, a day of storm and of desolation, a day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick gloom.” (Zep 1:15) During such a time of trouble, one’s money is absolutely ...[text shortened]... s of the land get agitated; for the day of Jehovah is coming, for it is near!”—Joe 1:15; 2:1, 2.
So how do you explain this 'sense of urgency' when 2000 years later the day has apparently not yet come? Did all those warnings hold any benefit to the people listening at the time or any of the readers in the following 2000 years? If so, then is it really talking about a future date, or about something that happens withing the life time of the listener?
03 Mar 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadPerhaps the reason for the "sense of urgency" statement said back when this was written is to keep ones minds and sense's sharp no matter what time period they live in. It's no different then ones who live for example along the Oregon coast where there is a real and constant threat of a tsunami that will result from the earthquake that will happen someday just offshore. If local officials did not give ones who live in that area the strong advise or a "sense of urgency" to keep a constant watch on the warning signs that would be issued or felt when that happens in the future and not give them the knowledge of ways to escape, then many thousands of life's would not survive.
Simply watching a Soap Opera about the rich and famous will tell you that money doesn't solve everything. But it sure is nice to have!
So how do you explain this 'sense of urgency' when 2000 years later the day has apparently not yet come? Did all those warnings hold any benefit to the people listening at the time or any of the readers in the following ...[text shortened]... g about a future date, or about something that happens withing the life time of the listener?
And then when one hopefully recognizes the signs that Jesus latter described by certian events happening, the system as we know it will end with the battle of armageddon.
And since "no man knows the day or hour" when this happens, I think a sense of urgency is very applicable no matter the time period one lives in.
03 Mar 11
Originally posted by galveston75So you are saying that it is intended to help save lives at some future date, and contains no important message for everyone who has died before that date?
And since "no man knows the day or hour" when this happens, I think a sense of urgency is very applicable no matter the time period one lives in.
03 Mar 11
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Originally posted by galveston75No one is coming..........this is a story by the church to get everyone to be good just like all the children are good when they expect Santa Clause to come on Christmas day.
Isaiah was told: “Look! The day of Jehovah itself is coming, cruel both with fury and with burning anger.” (Isa 13:9) “That day is a day of fury, a day of distress and of anguish, a day of storm and of desolation, a day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick gloom.” (Zep 1:15) During such a time of trouble, one’s money is absolutely ...[text shortened]... s of the land get agitated; for the day of Jehovah is coming, for it is near!”—Joe 1:15; 2:1, 2.
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Its a physiological ploy to have everyone have a continuous "be good" mind set, just in case Jesus turns up on your door step .
Time to leave the stories behind and reject the error of the Bible.........actually the Bible should be re-written and without the error, and then and only then, it will have some potency
03 Mar 11
Originally posted by DasaAre you saying that, instead, we "be good" - give up eating meat - pot smoking - drinking - gambling - and tell our sexual partners to sleep in their own beds - so that we are then reincarnated as, say, birds or something higher than birds or even something higher than what we are now - on another planet, or perhaps even on the Sun? Why should an educated, independent, spiritual bystander like myself succumb to either of these intricate "religionist" visions?
Its a physiological ploy to have everyone have a continuous "be good" mind set, just in case Jesus turns up on your door step .
03 Mar 11
Originally posted by FMFYou come under thread 11 ; 19 ; 53 Feb 25 (got to get qualified)....so this is why you dont understand anything.
Are you saying that, instead, we "be good" - give up eating meat - pot smoking - drinking - gambling - and tell our sexual partners to sleep in their own beds - so that we are then reincarnated as, say, birds or something higher than birds or even something higher than what we are now - on another planet, or perhaps even on the Sun? Why should an e ...[text shortened]... spiritual bystander like myself succumb to either of these intricate "religionist" visions?
03 Mar 11
Originally posted by galveston75My dad is not a bible man, but i have asked him if he would ever invest in gold on numerous occasions. He says that gold is very risky to invest in.
Isaiah was told: “Look! The day of Jehovah itself is coming, cruel both with fury and with burning anger.” (Isa 13:9) “That day is a day of fury, a day of distress and of anguish, a day of storm and of desolation, a day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick gloom.” (Zep 1:15) During such a time of trouble, one’s money is absolutely ...[text shortened]... s of the land get agitated; for the day of Jehovah is coming, for it is near!”—Joe 1:15; 2:1, 2.
03 Mar 11
Originally posted by DasaSo you say? What's so wrong with being good?
No one is coming..........this is a story by the church to get everyone to be good just like all the children are good when they expect Santa Clause to come on Christmas day.
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Its a physiological ploy to have everyone have a continuous "be good" mind set, just in case Jesus turns up on your door step .
Time to leave the stories behind and reject the erro ...[text shortened]... should be re-written and without the error, and then and only then, it will have some potency
03 Mar 11
Originally posted by DasaThe bible is comprised of over 24,000 manuscript that were used to make it.
No one is coming..........this is a story by the church to get everyone to be good just like all the children are good when they expect Santa Clause to come on Christmas day.
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Its a physiological ploy to have everyone have a continuous "be good" mind set, just in case Jesus turns up on your door step .
Time to leave the stories behind and reject the erro ...[text shortened]... should be re-written and without the error, and then and only then, it will have some potency