Capital Punishment: Murder?

Originally posted by wolfgang59
Why better?
This debate is about the value of life.
Killing another human being doesnt make things better.

The debate is also about culpability.

This changes a state-sponsored killing from murder to punishment. Putting down evil is never murder.

I'm sure the victim's family, seeing the state provide for the murderer's every whim, is so glad that the state cares so much about life, even though the State's attitude about the victim is just "oh, that's too bad".

Would that the State showed even as much value for the victim as they show for the murderer (in states with no death penalty).

Originally posted by Suzianne
The debate is also about culpability.

This changes a state-sponsored killing from murder to punishment. Putting down evil is never murder.

I'm sure the victim's family, seeing the state provide for the murderer's every whim, is so glad that the state cares so much about life, even though the State's attitude about the victim is just "oh, that's too b uch value for the victim as they show for the murderer (in states with no death penalty).

I'm sure the victim's family, seeing the state provide for the murderer's every whim, is so glad that the state cares so much about life, even though the State's attitude about the victim is just "oh, that's too bad".

That you felt compelled to make such ridiculously false statements only demonstrates how utterly desperate you are to try to make a point.

Capital punishment is a leftover from barbaric times as is slavery. BOTH are condoned by the OT. Do you also condone both?

Originally posted by Suzianne
The debate is also about culpability.

This changes a state-sponsored killing from murder to punishment. Putting down evil is never murder.

I'm sure the victim's family, seeing the state provide for the murderer's every whim, is so glad that the state cares so much about life, even though the State's attitude about the victim is just "oh, that's too b uch value for the victim as they show for the murderer (in states with no death penalty).

They don't lock the victim in a Super-max prison for the rest of his life. The victim's family's freedom far outweighs any handouts the murderer gets in the slammer.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
They don't lock the victim in a Super-max prison for the rest of his life. The victim's family's freedom far outweighs any handouts the murderer gets in the slammer.

The point is that the murderer should not get any handouts, but deserves to be tormented in Hell.

Originally posted by Suzianne
So, you subscribe to Dasa's opinion that all killing is murder?

Bizarro, at best.

No.
Why do you say that?

Originally posted by wolfgang59
No.
Why do you say that?

I think it might be because of your bizarre opinion that capital punishment is murder. 😏

Hopefully you have changed your mind now and no longer consider capital punishment murder.

Originally posted by Suzianne
The debate is also about culpability.

This changes a state-sponsored killing from murder to punishment. Putting down evil is never murder.

I'm sure the victim's family, seeing the state provide for the murderer's every whim, is so glad that the state cares so much about life, even though the State's attitude about the victim is just "oh, that's too b ...[text shortened]... uch value for the victim as they show for the murderer (in states with no death penalty).

You're also supporting capital punishment Suzianne? Would you be prepared to execute a murderer?

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
You're also supporting capital punishment Suzianne? Would you be prepared to execute a murderer?

I hope you feel as strong about not aborting an innocent baby.

Originally posted by avalanchethecat
You're also supporting capital punishment Suzianne? Would you be prepared to execute a murderer?

Yes, I support capital punishment.

Yes, I would pull the switch on Charles Manson or Ted Bundy... or Jack the Ripper... in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by Suzianne
Yes, I support capital punishment.

Yes, I would pull the switch on Charles Manson or Ted Bundy... or Jack the Ripper... in a heartbeat.

Tell him also that you would not abort an innocent baby.

Originally posted by Suzianne
The debate is also about culpability.

I suggest you check out "culpability" in a dictionary.

We are discussing Capital Punishment for MURDERERS.

ie Those that are culpable for the murder!

Originally posted by RJHinds
I think it might be because of your bizarre opinion that capital punishment is murder. 😏

Hopefully you have changed your mind now and no longer consider capital punishment murder.

Capital Punishment is not murder.
Is that clear enough for you ... or do you want to mis-quote me again?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Tell him also that you would not abort an innocent baby.

You cannot abort a baby.
Idiot.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
You cannot abort a baby.
Idiot.

Okay, then tell him you will not do an abortion. Is that better?

Originally posted by wolfgang59
Capital Punishment is not murder.
Is that clear enough for you ... or do you want to mis-quote me again?

My misunderstanding. I am glad that you agree. I thought you were arguing against capital punishment, because you thought it was murder by the state government.