Chess is a game for humans

@bigdogg said
It is extremely well suited for computers.

Using a computer has got my rating above 999. On several occasions.

@bigdogg said
All you have is assertions without any justification. You keep bringing up emotions of various sorts; I am not sure why, as I never said, or even implied, that computers have actual emotions.

You just see things the same boring, limited way over and over again. I don't think you're capable of digging deeper into how any of this stuff actually works. How disappointing.

You may as well say a clock because it displays time knows what time it is. The computer's only thing is to compute; it has nothing more than that. We can program it to do our taxes, play chess, create digital art, use it to write a book; it is all the same thing to the computer it isn't doing any else, nothing new, nothing on its own, nothing without being told or commanded what to do. There is no play for the sake of playing games; those are things we do, even animals play with each other but computers no, it made for good sci-fi but no.

I worked on CPUs for 20 years; it isn't a mystery about their functions.

@karoly-aczel said
Not computers.
Ideas?

Depends on how the computer is used. I'm not a fan of Human v Computer, but computers can make great training partners in our completed games spotting tactic errors and finding forced mates humans sometimes overlook.

@bigdogg said
It is extremely well suited for computers.

But computers don't have skin.

@bigdogg said
As is most of what you post.

Not my fault people can't agree on words

@kellyjay said
And?

First time a computer beat a human

@karoly-aczel said
First time a computer beat a human

A car can run faster than we can run, planes go higher in the sky than we can jump. Neither of them do anything more than we designed them to. Calculators are more accurate than we are at math too but they don’t play anything either. It is not that they can do the calculations for chess, they do what we tell them the way we tell them. That is not playing anymore than figuring out a tip at restaurant is using some device. Running the code does not for the computer cause a win or loss, those two things are limited to us, the computer has no understanding it just calculates.

@kellyjay said
A car can run faster than we can run, planes go higher in the sky than we can jump. Neither of them do anything more than we designed them to. Calculators are more accurate than we are at math too but they don’t play anything either. It is not that they can do the calculations for chess, they do what we tell them the way we tell them. That is not playing anymore than figurin ...[text shortened]... n or loss, those two things are limited to us, the computer has no understanding it just calculates.

Well that's kinda my point

However there are finite moves on a chess board. Perhaps the humans may win again against computers

@karoly-aczel said
Well that's kinda my point

However there are finite moves on a chess board. Perhaps the humans may win again against computers

I am not arguing the computer cannot make the moves or that we can play against them or even watch them (play) the game. I am only saying computers only calculate in absolutely everything action where they are running code. So chess, taxes, communication, math, art, everything is the same it runs code. It doesn’t win or lose from the computer’s standpoint because it has no standpoints. Rolling a rock down hill follows rules like gravity, computers are just more complex but just as predictable. If they were not we could not use them in the manner we do.

@karoly-aczel said
First time a computer beat a human

Did the computer feel good about itself.