20 Jan 22
@fmf saidI'm not apologizing for squat here, I've answered every question put to me, and you simply dismiss me.
Yes. I don't think you have been conversing in good faith. Sorry, KellyJay. You've spologized for such things before, after a suitable pause
20 Jan 22
@kellyjay saidHow does this work then? We can say that the slaves in the US were black? Or do you object to their colour being mentioned? And you object to their owners being referred to as white? You refuse to acknowledge that white supremacists were behind the institution of slavery in the US because you object to the word white being used? Regardless of whether they were black or white, they were all "sinners", is that how it works?
I object to any and every color being used not just white.
@fmf saidThere were many people behind slavery, and not all of them were white; as a matter of fact, not all slave owners were white either, convenient facts being overlooked here. My point is that when using words like supremacist, adding color to that word smears everyone of that color; I don't care what color they are, white black, it doesn't matter. The same thing is true when we apply color to extremists; I'm repeating myself because you consider this type of speak mind-numbing faith speech whatever that is in your mind, outside of something you can say to dismiss people you are talking to without actually engaging in specifics. So when you are going to paint an entire race as if they were the only ones with a hand in a despicable piece of human history and leave out others, I have to ask, why?
How does this work then? We can say that the slaves in the US were black? Or do you object to their colour being mentioned? And you object to their owners being referred to as white? You refuse to acknowledge that white supremacists were behind the institution of slavery in the US because you object to the word white being used? Regardless of whether they were black or white, they were all "sinners", is that how it works?
21 Jan 22
@kellyjay saidSo you feel that talk of white supremacists "smears" you and "smears" all white people? And you feel that talking about how white Christians in your country - who had notions about their own racial superiority -and who enslaved black people, "smears" you?
My point is that when using words like supremacist, adding color to that word smears everyone of that color
21 Jan 22
@kellyjay saidBut no one is "painting an entire race" when they talk about white supremacists. You are making stuff up. I also have to ask why. Why does people talking about white supremacy make you so defensive?
So when you are going to paint an entire race as if they were the only ones with a hand in a despicable piece of human history and leave out others, I have to ask, why?
@kellyjay saidWhat do you mean I am not "actually engaging in specifics"? What posts are you reading? I am specifically talking about the Christian roots of white supremacy: it's specifically the thread title. And I am talking specifically about slavery in your country in the C19th, And those who were enslaved were specifically black. What on Earth do you mean I am not "actually engaging in specifics"?
I'm repeating myself because you consider this type of speak mind-numbing faith speech whatever that is in your mind, outside of something you can say to dismiss people you are talking to without actually engaging in specifics.
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21 Jan 22
@fmf saidDo you believe there are racists in every race?
But no one is "painting an entire race" when they talk about white supremacists. You are making stuff up. I also have to ask why. Why does people talking about white supremacy make you so defensive?
Specifically, do you believe black racists exist?
21 Jan 22
@pb1022 said[1] Of course there are. Maybe "Why are there racists in every race?" would make a good thread.
Do you believe there are racists in every race?
Specifically, do you believe black racists exist?
[2] Of course they exist. Maybe "Do black racists exist?" would make a good thread. This thread is called "Christian Roots of White Supremacy"
21 Jan 22
@fmf saidI have said why I think it's wrong; apparently, you ignored it all, thinking it was 'faith speech,' so I'm not going to repeat myself.
So you feel that talk of white supremacists "smears" you and "smears" all white people? And you feel that talking about how white Christians in your country - who had notions about their own racial superiority -and who enslaved black people, "smears" you?