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Originally posted by 667joeBecause almost nobody is taught the value of rational thinking.
Still no one has said anything in the original post was incorrect. Therefore it is very hard for me to understand how people can believe in Christianity because of the total absurdity involved!
If you don't value rationality then you are unlikely to employ it.
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Originally posted by googlefudgeYet you post most often in a spirituality forum and comment mostly on christian topics... interesting.
You are saying that if I don't join your faith then I will upon death have to face god who will
punish me for not joining by torturing me for all eternity...
If that isn't a threat then I don't know what is.
I have no fear of hell, none whatsoever.
I have no fear that you are right, none whatsoever.
I don't fear your god, at all.
I don't bel ...[text shortened]... cter, in fact in many cases god
is considerably less scary than other fictional villains.
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Originally posted by tomtom232Not really, I mainly post in the spirituality forum on this website, I post on a number of websites
Yet you post most often in a spirituality forum and comment mostly on Christian topics... interesting.
and this is the only one with a spirituality forum on it.
I post on any debate or argument that I find interesting and/or that I can make a point worth
making (in my estimation at least).
I don't join in on threads arguing over which interpretation of the bible is correct for example
because I could neither offer an informed opinion or bring myself to care which interpretation
is correct because it doesn't matter as they are all unsubstantiated nonsense.
If I end up in 'Christian' threads more often I suggest that is purely due to the prevalence of
Christian threads on this forum.
I argue against irrationality and believing things on faith in any guise and try to make my arguments
pan theistic in that they would apply to any religion or god concept.
I do enjoy debating, I think what people believe and the way that they make decisions and weigh
evidence is important, and this naturally means that the spirituality forum has some attraction to me.
However this shouldn't be (and oughtn't be able to be) construed to mean that I secretly do have a
fear of hell or am insecure in my unbelief or anything of that sort.
I have not the slightest doubt that unbelief and not taking things on faith is the only rational or
reasonable position to take and that I am completely justified in holding it given the current evidence
available.
I have no soul, and thus no fear of losing it.
I am, and always have been, and probably always will be an atheist.
It would take extraordinary proof to convince me that there was a god or gods.
And while that would cause me to believe in their existence it wouldn't cause me to worship them.
For me to change in this regard would require such a dramatic change in personality and thought that I
would no longer be anything resembling my present self. The me that is alive now would no longer exist.
Originally posted by googlefudgeIf the God of the bible was proven to exist you would not worship him? I don't believe it all either but if that God were to exist I would bow down for fear of his evil wrath. 😛
Not really, I mainly post in the spirituality forum on this website, I post on a number of websites
and this is the only one with a spirituality forum on it.
I post on any debate or argument that I find interesting and/or that I can make a point worth
making (in my estimation at least).
I don't join in on threads arguing over which interpretation ...[text shortened]... r be anything resembling my present self. The me that is alive now would no longer exist.
Originally posted by tomtom232Not me. What is morally correct with God existing, cannot be morally incorrect without God existing. Live to that standard and you can't go wrong.
If the God of the bible was proven to exist you would not worship him? I don't believe it all either but if that God were to exist I would bow down for fear of his evil wrath. 😛
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Originally posted by tomtom232Any being that demands to be worshipped is not worthy of it, Any being worthy of worship would not demand it.
If the God of the bible was proven to exist you would not worship him?
I don't believe it all either but if that God were to exist I would bow down for fear of his evil wrath. 😛
What you might do or say faced with threat of, or after experiencing, torture is of no relevance.
Nothing worthy of worship would demand it.
And I can think of no possible being that I would consider worthy of worshipping.
I just don't buy the concept of worshipping something, anything, I see no point, benefit, or rational.
Originally posted by googlefudgeHave you figured out what you worship and serve in this world? 😏
Any being that demands to be worshipped is not worthy of it, Any being worthy of worship would not demand it.
What you might do or say faced with threat of, or after experiencing, torture is of no relevance.
Nothing worthy of worship would demand it.
And I can think of no possible being that I would consider worthy of worshipping.
I just don't buy the concept of worshipping something, anything, I see no point, benefit, or rational.
