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Originally posted by snowinscotlandThere are in fact christian people who are not anti-science.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/2910447/Charles-Darwin-to-receive-apology-from-the-Church-of-England-for-rejecting-evolution.html
remind anybody of something in a similar vein?
I think a very large percentage of the christians accepts the scientific evolution as a fact.
Then we have the rest...
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Originally posted by snowinscotlandYes, it reminds me of when the Catholic Church finally acknowledged that the earth revolved around the sun (circa 1979, about ten years after man had landed on the moon) and pardoned Galileo for claiming so.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/2910447/Charles-Darwin-to-receive-apology-from-the-Church-of-England-for-rejecting-evolution.html
remind anybody of something in a similar vein?
16 Sep 08
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesI was actually going to say that it took the Catholic church longer to pardon Galileo.
Yes, it reminds me of when the Catholic Church finally acknowledged that the earth revolved around the sun (circa 1979, about ten years after man had landed on the moon) and pardoned Galileo for claiming so.
I guess some churches realize they're wrong a bit faster than others.
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Originally posted by DoctorScribblesThe Catholic Church actually approved of that heliocentrism in the early part of the 19th century. But even a century earlier, with Newton's proof (a proof which Galileo was unable to give), all bans on heliocentric books had been lifted.
Yes, it reminds me of when the Catholic Church finally acknowledged that the earth revolved around the sun (circa 1979, about ten years after man had landed on the moon) and pardoned Galileo for claiming so.
17 Sep 08
Originally posted by josephwMy boss at work tells everyone with pride that she doesn't know anything about math. "I have never in my life evaluated a square root of anything anytime. I have a calculater if I need to.", she says. She had low marks in the school, and just doesn't find anything important about math.
I'll gladly be counted with "the rest".
But in her work, she has economic responsibilities, and to motivate her manegement about the benefits for her appartement's existance, she has to bring up statistical reports. When I see these calculations, and her arguments behind them, I tell myself "If she knew some more about math and what to do with it, statisticly or otherwise, we might perhaps have a future in the organization."
She is proud to not knowing about math, but is still dependant of math for her survival.
I see some parallel...
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17 Sep 08
Originally posted by PsychoPawnBecause Pope John Paul II tended to make symbolic gestures. The pardon was unnecessary and Ratzinger has been slightly more ambivalent on the Galileo affair: last year, there were protests at Roman university La Sapienza against the Pope for his alleged justification of the trial of Galileo. The Pope did not deny those allegations, and perhaps rightly so...
So why did it take so long to pardon Galileo?
17 Sep 08
Originally posted by FabianFnasIn my experience, a large number of people who create 'statistical reports' know far more about the desired result than they do about the math required to get there correctly. Luckily for them, their managers rarely check the math and only look at the result.
..... she has to bring up statistical reports. When I see these calculations, and her arguments behind them, I tell myself "If she knew some more about math and what to do with it, statisticly or otherwise, we might perhaps have a future in the organization."
17 Sep 08
Originally posted by twhiteheadThis is so true. I think that in our sciety, with very complex organizations and financial desicions, statistics (including probability) are a very important tool. With lacking understanding of the math behind it we will soon be on thin ice. (...and are already.)
In my experience, a large number of people who create 'statistical reports' know far more about the desired result than they do about the math required to get there correctly. Luckily for them, their managers rarely check the math and only look at the result.
But my point here is this:
I've never heard of anyone bragged that he cannot read.
I've heard people (my boss included) brag about they don't know anything about math.
And I've heard YE creationists who completely dismiss the scientific progress as being false, because "Bible says otherwise."
17 Sep 08
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesbruno was in more need to be pardoned, him being turned into a well done steak. galileo became church's biatch after saying the earth isn't revolving around the sun
Yes, it reminds me of when the Catholic Church finally acknowledged that the earth revolved around the sun (circa 1979, about ten years after man had landed on the moon) and pardoned Galileo for claiming so.