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Originally posted by HalitoseWhat am I supposed to conclude? That you live in the unshakeable security of Axiom Castle?
Read through the previous page debate i had with Knightwulfe.
Classical Chaos is also uncreated by definition. Order arises out of chaos (viz. chaos theory). Conceivably, Chaos spawned God--along with the other elohim. Then, by Jove, Jehovah gathered his weapons of mass destruction & set about eliminating them one by one.
"In the classic Greek cosmogony, the universe is created from chaos. Chaos, the primal confusion is the raw material and then organization, or logos, or an ordering principle comes about and creates the universe."
Originally posted by HalitoseI think the only point that you have proven here is that every religion has a basis is something that has no basis in proof. It is ENTIRELY based in faith.
Exactly the point I'm trying to make here.
Edit: in my little tiff with Wolf
Was that your point? Cuz I knew that already....
Originally posted by KnightWulfeI detect a slight shift in your emphasis -- watch:
I think the only point that you have proven here is that every religion has a basis is something that has no basis in proof. It is ENTIRELY based in faith.
Was that your point? Cuz I knew that already....
Originally posted by Halitose
By definition God is an uncreated, omnipotent being. Its an a priori assumption in theology.
Originally posted by KnightWulfe
It is not a priori assumption in Theology. Check your ancient religions such as the Greek gods...NONE of these assume that fact. IN FACT, the gods were created and even died... Thanks for proving that you are just full of it.
Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
You can apply the same logical exception to Chaos as you do to your God when asked this very question.
Originally posted by Halitose
Exactly the point I'm trying to make here.
Originally posted by KnightWulfe
Was that your point? Cuz I knew that already....
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Did you know that already, since you were so willing to dispute it? Where ya headed with this?
Originally posted by HalitoseNo shift in my emphasis...you seem to be trying to prove a point that was not related to mine.
I detect a slight shift in your emphasis -- watch:
Originally posted by Halitose
By definition God is an uncreated, omnipotent being. Its an a priori assumption in theology.
Originally posted by KnightWulfe
It is not a priori assumption in Theology. Check your ancient religions such as the Greek gods...NONE of these assume that fact. ...[text shortened]...
Did you know that already, since you were so willing to dispute it? Where ya headed with this?
You have no proof that God was not created. You said it was a priori of theology, which it is not, as is shown by the greek related post indicating that the Gods were, in fact, created. you seemed to be trying to drill back to what created them being created or not, but since we have nothing beyond the greek gods were created from chaos (note - not an omnipotent being, just a state of the universe) - there is nothing discussed on what was before chaos.
So again - if your point is that there is no proof to show god was created...ok... But you must acknowledge that there is no proof that he was NOT created either. Boiled down, just with any other relgion, theology or MYTHology, there is not proof.
THAT is my point.