Originally posted by SuzianneThe problem with 'religion' is the basket is way too full. There is ONE scientific method that produces results. There are literally THOUSANDS of religions, each with its own creation myth. They are ALL equally valid.
I've said many times, Science answers the How? while Religion answers the Why? And they each answer their own question expertly.
This is why putting ALL your eggs into one basket is not enough. They each have their place. But each one also fails spectacularly when asked to explain the other's question. Science cannot answer the Why? as Religion cannot answer the How?
Simple enough. Case closed.
Originally posted by sonhouseI have not heard of any religious creation story that makes sense other than the one in the Holy Bible. Dasa claims the Vedas have one, but I always thought the Hindu creation story had a giant elephant balancing the earth on its back or something of that sort.
The problem with 'religion' is the basket is way too full. There is ONE scientific method that produces results. There are literally THOUSANDS of religions, each with its own creation myth. They are ALL equally valid.
Originally posted by C HessThis is exactly what I mean by insincerity...........
I figured out a long time ago that all religions are equalły unlikely to be true when they comment on reality. I have no idea what your creation story is, so I can't really comment on it though.
If a person is going out in the world to find the truth of God / they will research all creation stories from different religions.
But first they must know what the difference is between true religion and false religion.
You don't want to waste time researching false religion / do you?
Actually when a person does know the difference they shall find the true creation story very quickly.
Here is the very first verse in the Srimad Bhagavatam which discusses the creation..................
There are 18000 verses in the Srimad Bhagavatam
TEXT 1
oṁ namo bhagavate vāsudevāya
janmādy asya yato 'nvayād itarataś cārtheṣv abhijñaḥ svarāṭ
tene brahma hṛdā ya ādi-kavaye muhyanti yat sūrayaḥ
tejo-vāri-mṛdāṁ yathā vinimayo yatra tri-sargo 'mṛṣā
dhāmnā svena sadā nirasta-kuhakaṁ satyaṁ paraṁ dhīmahi
SYNONYMS
om—O my Lord; namaḥ—offering my obeisances; bhagavate—unto the Personality of Godhead; vāsudevāya—unto Vāsudeva (the son of Vasudeva), or Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the primeval Lord; janma-ādi—creation, sustenance and destruction; asya—of the manifested universes; yataḥ—from whom; anvayāt—directly; itarataḥ—indirectly; ca—and; artheṣu—purposes; abhijñaḥ—fully cognizant; sva-rāṭ—fully independent; tene—imparted; brahma—the Vedic knowledge; hṛdā—consciousness of the heart; yaḥ—one who; ādi-kavaye—unto the original created being; muhyanti—are illusioned; yat—about whom; sūrayaḥ—great sages and demigods; tejaḥ—fire; vāri—water; mṛdām—earth; yathā—as much as; vinimayaḥ—action and reaction; yatra—whereupon; tri-sargaḥ—three modes of creation, creative faculties; amṛṣā—almost factual; dhāmnā—along with all transcendental paraphernalia; svena—self-sufficiently; sadā—always; nirasta—negation by absence; kuhakam—illusion; satyam—truth; param—absolute; dhīmahi—I do meditate upon.
TRANSLATION
O my Lord, Śrī Kṛṣṇa, son of Vasudeva, O all-pervading Personality of Godhead, I offer my respectful obeisances unto You. I meditate upon Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa because He is the Absolute Truth and the primeval cause of all causes of the creation, sustenance and destruction of the manifested universes. He is directly and indirectly conscious of all manifestations, and He is independent because there is no other cause beyond Him. It is He only who first imparted the Vedic knowledge unto the heart of Brahmājī, the original living being. By Him even the great sages and demigods are placed into illusion, as one is bewildered by the illusory representations of water seen in fire, or land seen on water. Only because of Him do the material universes, temporarily manifested by the reactions of the three modes of nature, appear factual, although they are unreal. I therefore meditate upon Him, Lord Śrī Kṛṣṇa, who is eternally existent in the transcendental abode, which is forever free from the illusory representations of the material world. I meditate upon Him, for He is the Absolute Truth.
Originally posted by DasaHumans are very creative and were thousands of years ago, no deity had a hand in those verses or any others. You are just as insincere as the rest of the religious crowd. All you have are words written on paper. Your god never came down to you and lifted you off the ground or anything.
This is exactly what I mean by insincerity...........
If a person is going out in the world to find the truth of God / they will research all creation stories from different religions.
But first they must know what the difference is between true religion and false religion.
You don't want to waste time researching false religion / do you?
Actually w ...[text shortened]... lusory representations of the material world. I meditate upon Him, for He is the Absolute Truth.
Originally posted by DasaWrong. It is the Lord Jesus Christ that is the way, the truth, and the life.
This is exactly what I mean by insincerity...........
If a person is going out in the world to find the truth of God / they will research all creation stories from different religions.
But first they must know what the difference is between true religion and false religion.
You don't want to waste time researching false religion / do you?
Actually w ...[text shortened]... lusory representations of the material world. I meditate upon Him, for He is the Absolute Truth.
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Originally posted by RJHindsIf you listen to the first video, he goes through an entire list of them close to the end. Of course, that list is not nearly complete, but it gives you an initial hint about how solid a theory evolution is; damn solid.
What is the verifiable evidence for biological evolution?