Originally posted by WulebgrDon't you suppose that 'Jesus loves Darwin' is a message from those Christians who feel
If you'll read all the posts, you'll see that the bumper snicker is ambiguous that it provokes disagreement as to which "side" it promotes. No one has offered more than minimal exegesis supporting their reasons for believing what they declare in the "clear" message.
that Christianity is perfectly compatible with evolution (e.g., RCC)?
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioI think "Jesus loves Darwin" is something that nearly all xians would agree to. Jesus loves Darwin perfectly, and that is why Jesus must send him to Hell for all eternity.
Don't you suppose that 'Jesus loves Darwin' is a message from those Christians who feel
that Christianity is perfectly compatible with evolution (e.g., RCC)?
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioIt could be taken that way, but you must presume both an open mind and a certain Christlikeness among the xtian displaying the message. Unfortunately, in many parts of the United States, the available evidence strongly tilts away from such presumption.
Don't you suppose that 'Jesus loves Darwin' is a message from those Christians who feel
that Christianity is perfectly compatible with evolution (e.g., RCC)?
Nemesio
Originally posted by dottewellI recall years ago I wondered about leeches being useful in drawing
Don't joke. A nurse at my brother's school used leeches.
blood through a finger tip or something that was cut off and
reattached. I met a girl who lost the tip of one of her fingers in a work
accident, and they were getting ready to take it back off, because of
issues with the reattachment. She told me it was a blood flow
problem. Outside of issues like that I don’t see what the
usefulness of leeches could possibly be, what did the school nurse
think she was doing with leeches?
Kelly
KellyJay,
Though you express your ideas in these debates very well, this is the first time I've found myself agreeing with one of them.
Leeches were used medically in the past for just about every ailment there was. The therapy was based on the therapeutic effects of blood letting. This was before the work of Dr William Harvey, when the circulatory system was thought to be one way, with blood produced in the liver, sucked up by the heart, and then distributed by the muscular pumping of arteries for consumption by the organs. It was thought that diseaes were caused by too much blood collected in one part of the body and leeches were the cure.
You are right in saying that leeches could be useful for a reattached finger or piece of skin. Leeches are used in modern medicine to reduce venous congestion in skin flaps, wich improves the blood flow. It does suck blood to the area though, it removes excess venous blood, which reduces the back pressure on the system and allows better arterial flow. leeches are the best wat for doing this currently due to the accuracy of their placemtn when used and thier anticoagulant effects.
Conceivably leeches could be therapy for a disease such as haemochromotosis, but this is quite impractical.
I have no idea what the nurse could have been thinking. But I usually cant understand what nurses are thinking so Im not too surprised
Originally posted by CliffLandinThat statement is rife with incongruity. For instance, the 'nice people' who swallow: what brings them to that stage, if not the action of the supposed 'mean people?' Is a mean person's disposition miraculously altered at a point in time? At one point, they are mean and therefore, sucking; in an instant, they are changed, now nice, and obligingly, they swallow. What is the change mechanism? What, if anything, triggers the epiglottis to willingly accept matter into the trachea? Harumph, harumph.
It's a bumper sticker! You are looking for deep meaning in a bumper sticker!
If you want to debate a bumper sticker, how 'bout the one I saw on a car driven by a really hot chick the other day that said "Mean people suck! Nice people swallow."