Originally posted by howardgee I am still waiting for the people who believe in God to define it.
God may be no more than an arrangement of chemicals in the brains of those who believe. It is my contention that even if that is all he may be, it does not necessarily devalue spirituality or religion, merely put it on a more up to date and realistic footing.
Originally posted by howardgee Kelly Jay and Halitose - you know you are lost when you can only answer a question with a question.
Pathetic.
I find that incongruous coming from a man who has had nothing but contempt, ridicule and scorn for my beliefs. Did you think I would be gullible enough to set myself up for another one of your tirades without ascertaining your intentions??
Originally posted by KellyJay Simply trying to understand what your are asking for.
I can give you plenty of things about God to descripbe Him, but that
doesn't mean any of them are things you are looking for or will
accept. You have after all, attempted to shot down a description
already that was offered by another. So I want to know what it is
you are looking for when someone trys to define or describe God
to you.
Kelly
Originally posted by orfeo My point is that you are demanding something that far better writers than I find very difficult to do. I can describe myself as 6ft tall, 32 years old, etc etc, but defining myself in a satisfactory way without using those kind of (fairly meaningless) physical qualities is a lot harder.
Seeing as God doesn't have those kinds of physical characteristics, yo ...[text shortened]... efining the character of ANYTHING without using a physical description of it is far from easy.
You say that God "doesn't have those kinds of physical characteristics".
Do you mean God is ethereal?
Phew, finally we have a property of God, even if I had to give it myself.
Originally posted by Halitose I find that incongruous coming from a man who has had nothing but contempt, ridicule and scorn for my beliefs. Did you think I would be gullible enough to set myself up for another one of your tirades without ascertaining your intentions??
It is not incongruous; it is entirely consistent.
(do you understand what incongruous means?)
Originally posted by amannion So if God is love, then why all this heathens in hell and fire and damnation? If he loves us all why aren't we all going to live in eternal bliss forever anyway.
And come to think of it, why do we have to wait until we die? Why not just put everyone who ever was, or is, or will be, in heaven right now?
hell, fire and damnation are products of human concepts, not a concept of God. At least not in my concept of God.
As for the second remark of putting everyone in heaven right now: that is not (my concept of) God's way. God does not interfere in any way. We all are completely free to join God at any time.
Originally posted by frogstomp Raise the bar a little and ask for the underlying physics of God's being. Or at least the mechanism that God uses to perform His miracles.
Ha ha, you must be joking, Frogstomp!
So far we haven't had a single property of God defined by anyone other than me. What chance an explanation of the underlying physics!?!
"Main Entry: tran·scen·dent
Pronunciation: -d&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin transcendent-, transcendens, present participle of transcendere
1 a : exceeding usual limits : SURPASSING
b : extending or lying beyond the limits of ordinary experience
c in Kantian philosophy : being beyond the limits of all possible experience and knowledge
2 : being beyond comprehension
3 : transcending the universe or material existence"