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Define God.

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Originally posted by howardgee

I am still waiting for the people who believe in God to define it.
God may be no more than an arrangement of chemicals in the brains of those who believe. It is my contention that even if that is all he may be, it does not necessarily devalue spirituality or religion, merely put it on a more up to date and realistic footing.

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Originally posted by howardgee
Kelly Jay and Halitose - you know you are lost when you can only answer a question with a question.

Pathetic.
I find that incongruous coming from a man who has had nothing but contempt, ridicule and scorn for my beliefs. Did you think I would be gullible enough to set myself up for another one of your tirades without ascertaining your intentions??

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Hmmm, my definition of god precludes giving you a meaningful definition. 😀

I define god as being that which, after having defined and conceptualised all that I can, still remains outside of my rational grasp.

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Simply trying to understand what your are asking for.
I can give you plenty of things about God to descripbe Him, but that
doesn't mean any of them are things you are looking for or will
accept. You have after all, attempted to shot down a description
already that was offered by another. So I want to know what it is
you are looking for when someone trys to define or describe God
to you.
Kelly
Stop prevaricating and just try to define God.

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Originally posted by orfeo
My point is that you are demanding something that far better writers than I find very difficult to do. I can describe myself as 6ft tall, 32 years old, etc etc, but defining myself in a satisfactory way without using those kind of (fairly meaningless) physical qualities is a lot harder.

Seeing as God doesn't have those kinds of physical characteristics, yo ...[text shortened]... efining the character of ANYTHING without using a physical description of it is far from easy.
You say that God "doesn't have those kinds of physical characteristics".

Do you mean God is ethereal?

Phew, finally we have a property of God, even if I had to give it myself.

Any more?

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Originally posted by Halitose
I find that incongruous coming from a man who has had nothing but contempt, ridicule and scorn for my beliefs. Did you think I would be gullible enough to set myself up for another one of your tirades without ascertaining your intentions??
It is not incongruous; it is entirely consistent.
(do you understand what incongruous means?)

Now get on with defining God.

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Originally posted by howardgee
If there really is no difference; if God is love and love is God, then God is a redundant term.
redundant? Does that mean they both mean the same thing?
Then yes, redundant

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Originally posted by amannion
So if God is love, then why all this heathens in hell and fire and damnation? If he loves us all why aren't we all going to live in eternal bliss forever anyway.
And come to think of it, why do we have to wait until we die? Why not just put everyone who ever was, or is, or will be, in heaven right now?
hell, fire and damnation are products of human concepts, not a concept of God. At least not in my concept of God.
As for the second remark of putting everyone in heaven right now: that is not (my concept of) God's way. God does not interfere in any way. We all are completely free to join God at any time.

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Originally posted by howardgee
It is not incongruous; it is entirely consistent.
(do you understand what incongruous means?)

Now get on with defining God.
Raise the bar a little and ask for the underlying physics of God's being. Or at least the mechanism that God uses to perform His miracles.

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Originally posted by frogstomp
Raise the bar a little and ask for the underlying physics of God's being. Or at least the mechanism that God uses to perform His miracles.
Ha ha, you must be joking, Frogstomp!

So far we haven't had a single property of God defined by anyone other than me. What chance an explanation of the underlying physics!?!

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Originally posted by howardgee
Ha ha, you must be joking, Frogstomp!

So far we haven't had a single property of God defined by anyone other than me. What chance an explanation of the underlying physics!?!
Well, I think I've already made clear that the assumption that the physical universe is all there is, is problematic.

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Originally posted by orfeo
Well, I think I've already made clear that the assumption that the physical universe is all there is, is problematic.
You haven't.

Whats that got to do with God's properties anyway?

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Originally posted by howardgee
You haven't.

Whats that got to do with God's properties anyway?
You and frogstomp started talking about physics.

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Originally posted by orfeo
Well, I think I've already made clear that the assumption that the physical universe is all there is, is problematic.
Surely not in this thread. In what way is it "problematic"?

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God is Transcendent:

Merriam-Webster online dictionary:

"Main Entry: tran·scen·dent
Pronunciation: -d&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin transcendent-, transcendens, present participle of transcendere
1 a : exceeding usual limits : SURPASSING
b : extending or lying beyond the limits of ordinary experience
c in Kantian philosophy : being beyond the limits of all possible experience and knowledge
2 : being beyond comprehension
3 : transcending the universe or material existence"