18 Aug '10 16:19>2 edits
Inspired by disagreement with Fabian across the forums a while back.
What are you views on a religion definition?
It seems to me that religion has a very strong social context, meaning that it is a belief system adopted by a significant portion of people. However, does it have to hold a lot of the mainstream prerequisites? Mythology/deities, moral code, justification/meaning of life/universe etc.
I think, essentially, what I'd like to see is where the line is drawn between a set of perspectives and a religion. I do believe it's a matter of opinion and perhaps we could get a general consensus of how we view this things through social contexts and eyes.
I have often said that I am spiritual, but not religious/dogmatic perhaps entailing that religion contains more than just a spiritual identification. Can you think of examples of religion that do NOT include some reference to spirituality?
Are deities or mythological aspects inherent in a religious definition? A lot of eastern schools of thought ignore (or rather, don't reference directly, the connection can be and is made later on in some more developed ideals on the vedas and some buddhist branches) a theistical reference. Should these be contained under the religious umbrella? Or just kept as a belief system?
Morality seems to be a rigid backbone of religions. In general, there a few "universal" morals (the golden rule pops up pretty much everywhere) that are widely recognized. Tends to be an emphasis on self reflection on actions and thoughts and a reward/punishment system (or at least some system that keeps the cycle in some sort of check). If these moral codes aren't presented through some sort of story or justification (i.e. god made standards and he'll reward you for doing good things), can it be considered religious?
Meaning of life, the universe and everything (42) etc... I don't think it needs to be stated that religion will tend to justify existence (because God did it/ or some permeating force (supernatural or otherwise)) Do stand alone reasonings for such things need other religious portions to stand up as a religion- meaning can I just pose a justification for the universe and deem it a religion? Or do I need to throw in some other aspects (gods, maybe a moral code and a story)?
Please feel free to bring up other parts of religion you see and what parts you deem unnecessary/essential
What are you views on a religion definition?
It seems to me that religion has a very strong social context, meaning that it is a belief system adopted by a significant portion of people. However, does it have to hold a lot of the mainstream prerequisites? Mythology/deities, moral code, justification/meaning of life/universe etc.
I think, essentially, what I'd like to see is where the line is drawn between a set of perspectives and a religion. I do believe it's a matter of opinion and perhaps we could get a general consensus of how we view this things through social contexts and eyes.
I have often said that I am spiritual, but not religious/dogmatic perhaps entailing that religion contains more than just a spiritual identification. Can you think of examples of religion that do NOT include some reference to spirituality?
Are deities or mythological aspects inherent in a religious definition? A lot of eastern schools of thought ignore (or rather, don't reference directly, the connection can be and is made later on in some more developed ideals on the vedas and some buddhist branches) a theistical reference. Should these be contained under the religious umbrella? Or just kept as a belief system?
Morality seems to be a rigid backbone of religions. In general, there a few "universal" morals (the golden rule pops up pretty much everywhere) that are widely recognized. Tends to be an emphasis on self reflection on actions and thoughts and a reward/punishment system (or at least some system that keeps the cycle in some sort of check). If these moral codes aren't presented through some sort of story or justification (i.e. god made standards and he'll reward you for doing good things), can it be considered religious?
Meaning of life, the universe and everything (42) etc... I don't think it needs to be stated that religion will tend to justify existence (because God did it/ or some permeating force (supernatural or otherwise)) Do stand alone reasonings for such things need other religious portions to stand up as a religion- meaning can I just pose a justification for the universe and deem it a religion? Or do I need to throw in some other aspects (gods, maybe a moral code and a story)?
Please feel free to bring up other parts of religion you see and what parts you deem unnecessary/essential