@secondson saidWell?
"Jesus died because he was executed by the Romans for sedition."
That's a bogus statement. Substantiate it with any historical record if you can.
Apparently your knowledge of the scriptures after so many years of thinking you were a Christian doesn't add up to much.
@secondson saidOn one hand, you have the Bible, and on the other, you have the history of the Roman Empire. So I don't see how my statement can be described as "bogus".
"Jesus died because he was executed by the Romans for sedition."
That's a bogus statement. Substantiate it with any historical record if you can.
@secondson said"Bogus"?
"Jesus died because he was executed by the Romans for sedition."
That's a bogus statement. Substantiate it with any historical record if you can.
Apparently your knowledge of the scriptures after so many years of thinking you were a Christian doesn't add up to much.
@secondson saidThe Bible and the history of the Romans?
"Jesus died because he was executed by the Romans for sedition."
That's a bogus statement. Substantiate it with any historical record if you can.
Apparently your knowledge of the scriptures after so many years of thinking you were a Christian doesn't add up to much.
@fmf saidThere's no Roman record of Christ's execution.
On one hand, you have the Bible, and on the other, you have the history of the Roman Empire. So I don't see how my statement can be described as "bogus".
The description of events we have features the local ethnarch executing Christ under his authority.
@philokalia saidWe know what the Romans executed people for and how, and we know what Jews executed people for and how.
There's no Roman record of Christ's execution.
The description of events we have features the local ethnarch executing Christ under his authority.
@secondson saidWell, according to Christian texts, the Romans crucified Jesus. According to the historical records of that era, with the Romans, execution by crucifixion was carried out for political crimes such as treason and sedition. The Romans used crucifixion as a political weapon that sent a clear message to those living in the areas they occupied. If he had been found guilty of a religious crime, it would have been a Jewish matter and he would have been stoned to death. That was the Jewish form of execution. By contrast, crucifixion was the Roman method of punishment. The Jews did not crucify people.
"Jesus died because he was executed by the Romans for sedition."
That's a bogus statement. Substantiate it with any historical record if you can.
Apparently your knowledge of the scriptures after so many years of thinking you were a Christian doesn't add up to much.
@fmf saidThat reminds me.
Well, according to Christian texts, the Romans crucified Jesus. According to the historical records of that era, with the Romans, execution by crucifixion was carried out for political crimes such as treason and sedition. The Romans used crucifixion as a political weapon that sent a clear message to those living in the areas they occupied. If he had been found guilty of a religio ...[text shortened]... ution. By contrast, crucifixion was the Roman method of punishment. The Jews did not crucify people.
I just got down reading Psalms 22:16.
16 Dogs surround me, a pack of villains encircles me; they pierce my hands and my feet.
Prophesy about the coming crucifixion of Christ, only, Roman crucifixion had not been invented when this was written.
Astounding!
@whodey saidThe oldest copy of the Psalms in existence was produced - by hand - hundreds and hundreds of years after Jesus was executed. Crucifixion, as a method of execution, pre-dates Jesus by hundreds of years.
That reminds me.
I just got down reading Psalms 22:16.
16 Dogs surround me, a pack of villains encircles me; they pierce my hands and my feet.
Prophesy about the coming crucifixion of Christ, only, Roman crucifixion had not been invented when this was written.
Astounding!