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Originally posted by galveston75It seems to me that you're just telling us what "God" thinks. How are you qualified to speak for "God"? You may be speaking for the "Devil" (or L. Ron Hubbard for that matter.) If you already know everything then why ask anyone here? ('Cause you like to hear the echo of your own voice?) Hell ain't half-full, Bub.
Manny..get over it and no, there is no agenda. If you don't want to be a part of this discussion, leave.
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Originally posted by TerrierJackOh my...Anyone can read what God says he expects in the bible from us..Twist it as you may but he is very clear with what he expects from humans. I'm not making anything up here as it's all in black and white in the scriptures..
It seems to me that you're just telling us what "God" thinks. How are you qualified to speak for "God"? You may be speaking for the "Devil" (or L. Ron Hubbard for that matter.) If you already know everything then why ask anyone here? ('Cause you like to hear the echo of your own voice?) Hell ain't half-full, Bub.
So sticking to this thread with an honest answer, how would you design a religion with the guidelines that God has laid out for humans.
Would ones in this new religion be allowed to kill another brother? Would one allow paganistic teachings in it, etc, etc.
Just thoughts on this and no other agendas as Mr Manny accusses.
I guess one way to understand what I'm curious about is if you were one of Adam's grandsons and you wanted to start a process of an organized way to worship God and honor him......How would you do this and what would you according to your knowledge of God feel would be right or wrong to allow in this new worship of God, knowing you could do wrong or right in your decisions from outside influances
Originally posted by galveston75#1Ok honestly My religion would be pure pleasure. Beer women drugs rock n roll !! No consequence for any of my actions. There you have it.
Manny..get over it and no, there is no agenda. If you don't want to be a part of this discussion, leave.
#2 Or I would create a cult were I was the leader and it would be a sex/money cult LOL
Hot women could only get salvation if they have sex with me. The followers would have to give me money by certain dates to avoid the end of the world coming to fruition.
#3 I would find some kind of wheat and claim that it would produce 100 fold of normal wheat then sell it to people. I would do this through an organization that I founded however claim that none of the proceeds went to me. Then I would act as if I knew the bible really well. I would sell magazines and literature in the name of God. I would make tons of prophecy's to scare people then make excuses when they did not come to pass. I would tell my followers that if they sold enough literature they would get to go to heaven or at least live on the Earthy paradise. All lies however.
Manny
Originally posted by menace71So you personally don't care about mankind, our relationship with god and have no care about what happens to us in the future...Ok, your call.
#1Ok honestly My religion would be pure pleasure. Beer women drugs rock n roll !! No consequence for any of my actions. There you have it.
#2 Or I would create a cult were I was the leader and it would be a sex/money cult LOL
Hot women could only get salvation if they have sex with me. The followers would have to give me money by certain dates to avoid ...[text shortened]... would get to go to heaven or at least live on the Earthy paradise. All lies however.
Manny
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Originally posted by galveston75#3 I would find some kind of wheat and claim that it would produce 100 fold of normal wheat then sell it to people. I would do this through an organization that I founded however claim that none of the proceeds went to me. Then I would act as if I knew the bible really well. I would sell magazines and literature in the name of God. I would make tons of prophecy's to scare people then make excuses when they did not come to pass. I would tell my followers that if they sold enough literature they would get to go to heaven or at least live on the Earthy paradise. All lies however.
So you personally don't care about mankind, our relationship with god and have no care about what happens to us in the future...Ok, your call.
Number 3 is my fav 😉
PS: I would add this whacky part about Blood transfusions and tell my followers that if they get a blood transfusion they are disobeying God and me of course.
It's my religion right?? I'm designing it.
Dude laugh I'm being a smart @$$ 😉
Manny
Originally posted by menace71Your title for this thread is Design a religion....
#3 I would find some kind of wheat and claim that it would produce 100 fold of normal wheat then sell it to people. I would do this through an organization that I founded however claim that none of the proceeds went to me. Then I would act as if I knew the bible really well. I would sell magazines and literature in the name of God. I would make tons of prop ...[text shortened]...
It's my religion right?? I'm designing it.
Dude laugh I'm being a smart @$$ 😉
Manny
There should be no stipulations for this. It's all hypothetical or theoretical anyway.
Manny
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Originally posted by galveston75You seem to be starting from your own infallible interpretation of the scriptures you hold to be true coupled with your own infallible assumptions about this entity 'God' (who's nature and abode is by definition beyond our own capacity to percieve or gain any tangible insight); and then asking people to define a religion subject to the constraints imposed by your interpretations and assumptions.
Oh my...Anyone can read what God says he expects in the bible from us..Twist it as you may but he is very clear with what he expects from humans. I'm not making anything up here as it's all in black and white in the scriptures..
So sticking to this thread with an honest answer, how would you design a religion with the guidelines that God has laid out f orship of God, knowing you could do wrong or right in your decisions from outside influances
There is precisely one religion which satisfies these constraints; namely yours. (that of course does not imply your 'religion' is correct)
If you want people to 'design a religion' they need more degrees of freedom than you're currently offering.
Originally posted by AgergI believe I've mentioed that but I'll say it again..Anything gos in the design but explain please why one would design it the way their designing it and if it would be for the betterment of mankind?
You seem to be starting from your own infallible interpretation of the scriptures you hold to be true coupled with your own infallible assumptions about this entity 'God' (who's nature and abode is by definition beyond our own capacity to percieve or gain any tangible insight); and then asking people to define a religion subject to the constraints imposed by y ...[text shortened]... to 'design a religion' they need more degrees of freedom than you're currently offering.
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Originally posted by galveston75But you mentioned in post #1 that it had to (paraphrasing here) 'fit what your God would approve of'. Now given that a religion is pretty much defined by the God it represents, the only degrees of freedom currently on offer are the elements of the Bible one supposes are to be taken strictly literally (we must also be sure about the precise meanings of such statements) or interpreted in some metaphorical sense given the context.
I believe I've mentioed that but I'll say it again..Anything gos in the design but explain please why one would design it the way their designing it and if it would be for the betterment of mankind?
But here's the catch, your particular notion of 'God' is defined by your own idiosyncratic interpretation of the Bible; and so from your point of view, any 'religion' which does not agree in at least one part with your conceptualisation of 'God' will fail to be a satisfactory answer to the challenge you set in the OP.
As Wolfgang pointed out, you might as well be asking people to design a cake whilst never deviating from the recipe in your cookbook.
Originally posted by galveston75It seems more likely that your so-called scriptures were inspired by er.. the other guy. An evil god, if you will. They've been at the root of more suffering and unhappiness than pretty much anything else ever invented, including er.. well everything.
Oh my...Anyone can read what God says he expects in the bible from us..Twist it as you may but he is very clear with what he expects from humans. I'm not making anything up here as it's all in black and white in the scriptures..
So sticking to this thread with an honest answer, how would you design a religion with the guidelines that God has laid out f ...[text shortened]... orship of God, knowing you could do wrong or right in your decisions from outside influances
I'd tell them to stop bastardizing any qualities we associate to god through our own biases and interpretations (that includes any cross reference with any scriptures or holy texts). Encourage working for each other, unity, communal solutions to problems, tolerance and respect because that's what your god would really want, galveston, instead of bickering over small minute details that you guys probably have wrong anyway
Originally posted by galveston75Yes but there are significant differences between say 'The Bible' that Christians refer to, and the Koran that Muslims use, for instance. To claim that what God says he expects from humans is "all in black and white in the scriptures" seems a little simplistic, no?
Oh my...Anyone can read what God says he expects in the bible from us..Twist it as you may but he is very clear with what he expects from humans. I'm not making anything up here as it's all in black and white in the scriptures..