-Removed-I believe the original sin of mankind brought death into the world. So it is appointed for man to die once, then comes the judgment. Satan the Devil is the source of original sin for he is the "father of lies". Man is not born a sinner but he can become a sinner by disobeying the commands of God just like Adam and Eve did.
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/original-sin.html
Do you understand the differece between original sin and the original sin of mankind?
Even though Adam sinned and brought human death into the world, it is not due to his sins that we are judged, but due to our own sins. The jews recognized a certain grace period for children in which they were not responsible. It is not clear whether or not God recognizes that same period or not. It is also not clear if anyone has ever lived a sinless life other than Christ. Some believe Enoch may have.
Originally posted by RJHindsOk, your not making sense at all.
I believe [b]the original sin of mankind brought death into the world. So it is appointed for man to die once, then comes the judgment. Satan the Devil is the source of original sin for he is the "father of lies". Man is not born a sinner but he can become a sinner by disobeying the commands of God just like Adam and Eve did.
http://www.goda ...[text shortened]... clear if anyone has ever lived a sinless life other than Christ. Some believe Enoch may have.[/b]
First you clearly say we do not sin but then you say we are judged by our own sins?
So if you decide NOT to sin, you don't? How can you possibly say that when the Bible, like the one you have, says that "all men sin".
The only one who didn't was Jesus.
So if you say you don't sin then you are Jesus's equal? If you are his equal then why did God send down his son and not just use you as our sacrifice?
See how silly this all sounds? Your problem is you are listening to these fools on the internet and their misguided ungodless thoughts.
READ YOUR BIBLE and pray to Jehovah and you might actually start to understand what it says.....
Originally posted by galveston75Where did I say "we do not sin". Point it out to me please. It must be a typing error. I agree that what you say sounds silly, but that is not what I said.
Ok, your not making sense at all.
First you clearly say we do not sin but then you say we are judged by our own sins?
So if you decide NOT to sin, you don't? How can you possibly say that when the Bible, like the one you have, says that "all men sin".
The only one who didn't was Jesus.
So if you say you don't sin then you are Jesus's eq ...[text shortened]... OUR BIBLE and pray to Jehovah and you might actually start to understand what it says.....
Originally posted by RJHindsYou have implied that we have the ability NOT to sin if we choose not to. So that clearly is saying from you that we are not sinful from birth and we could in your opinion live a whole life without sinning, just as Jesus did.
Where did I say "we do not sin". Point it out to me please. It must be a typing error. I agree that what you say sounds silly, but that is not what I said.
Unbelieveable....... And you really expect anyone here to take you serious on anything? Really dude?
Originally posted by RJHindsYour'e forgetting one BIG point here buddy. Do you recall who Jesus's Father was when Mary concieved Jesus?
You are a sinner because you have sinned. A baby is innocent, he is not a sinner just because he has been born. That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard with the possible exception of the theory of evolution.
P.S. Christ could never have lived a sinless life if he was born a sinner.
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by RJHindsBut that baby will sin. He has absolutley no control over that.
You are a sinner because you have sinned. A baby is innocent, he is not a sinner just because he has been born. That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard with the possible exception of the theory of evolution.
P.S. Christ could never have lived a sinless life if he was born a sinner.
Originally posted by SwissGambitNone of us have any control over sinning. The Bible says we are slaves to sin. But this is where God knew from the beginning with what Adam did, that we all inherit sin and will sin. So he started right after Adam sinned to make the arrangments to have a perfect life act as a sacrifice or ransome to pay for our sins and that was done by his son Jesus.
Huh? If he has absolutely no control, then how is it proper to hold him morally accountable for his actions?
But that in itself does not save all. Humans still have to live their lifes in accord with what God expects. We have to make the most effort we can to live our lifes as clean and honorable as we can and give our love and respect and follow God's request in all aspects of our life.
Originally posted by galveston75Once we start sinning, in time we become addicted to sin and therefore become as slaves. But the truth will set you free. HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord!
None of us have any control over sinning. The Bible says we are slaves to sin. But this is where God knew from the beginning with what Adam did, that we all inherit sin and will sin. So he started right after Adam sinned to make the arrangments to have a perfect life act as a sacrifice or ransome to pay for our sins and that was done by his son Jesus.
...[text shortened]... le as we can and give our love and respect and follow God's request in all aspects of our life.