20 Sep 05
Originally posted by frogstompSo whenever there is disagreement there should be inaction. What if we get disagreement from the socialist lobby?
especially when the cabin's disagree.
consider a different take on the Story of Noe ( setting aside it being a copy of Ziusudra's flood) if you leave off the other cabins the ship will run aground on a mountain top.
and even Christ almost missed the boat, took a miracle to be on it and then his purpose was to stop the storm and calm the sea. He didnt change the course.
20 Sep 05
Originally posted by Halitosesell your riches and give the money to the poor.
So whenever there is disagreement there should be inaction. What if we get disagreement from the socialist lobby?
socialist as in the means of production owned by the ship?
might even be the best way to keep the captain from being bribed to alter course by one of the Luxury Cabins.
20 Sep 05
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Originally posted by ivanhoeWell what do you expect from De Sales man?
FROM ST. FRANCIS DE SALES:
"As soon as worldly people see that you wish to follow a devout life they aim a thousand darts of mockery and even detraction at you. The most malicious of them will slander your conversion as hypocrisy, bigotry, and trickery. They will say that the world has turned against you and being rebuffed by it you have turned to God. ...[text shortened]... es de Sales from Introduction to the Divine Life on seeking holiness and how the world responds.
20 Sep 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeWTF are you on? This is a message bored, people come and read or post for entertainment. If some one wants to provoke thats fine. Are you innocent of abuse? Are you innocent of provocation? Hmm, don't think so!
Here we got one of the provokers and abusers. Look at his avatar box ..... designed to cause offense .... his second name designed to cause offense ....... his remarks .... meant to cause offense ..... not just once but all the time ....... it is his business here on the forums.
Provocation is good, once in a while we get provoked to think in new ways. Calm down, enjoy and join in with humour. If you carry on getting hysterical perhaps you should do something else with you time. Read a good book or something.
21 Sep 05
Originally posted by frogstompsell your riches and give the money to the poor.
sell your riches and give the money to the poor.
socialist as in the means of production owned by the ship?
might even be the best way to keep the captain from being bribed to alter course by one of the Luxury Cabins.
Yeeeeessss.
socialist as in the means of production owned by the ship?
Yes.
might even be the best way to keep the captain from being bribed to alter course by one of the Luxury Cabins.
Now you've p!ssed off all the capitalists on the boat and they want to start a mutiny.
Btw, where is this Luxory Liner headed?
21 Sep 05
Originally posted by darvlayDarvlay: "Surely any reasonable Christian would simply walk away from provocation whilst on an internet forum!"
What about the medium involved here?
Surely any reasonable Christian would simply walk away from provocation whilst on an internet forum!
Isn't this what your true advice really boils down to ?
Christians should in case of provocation, insults and abuse "simply walk away", maining they should be silent and shut up. The provokers and abusers would love that, don't you think, because that is exactly what they are after. These Christians should just walk away and shut up.
21 Sep 05
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Originally posted by ivanhoeDo you deny that this is what Jesus would have done?
[b]Darvlay: "Surely any reasonable Christian would simply walk away from provocation whilst on an internet forum!"
Isn't this what your true advice really boils down to ?
Christians should in case of provocation, insults and abuse "simply walk away", maining they should be silent and shut up. The provokers and abusers would love that, don't y ...[text shortened]... because that is exactly what they are after. These Christians should just walk away and shut up.[/b]
21 Sep 05
Originally posted by StarrmanI do not look upon Scripture as a recipe book for pre-cooked behaviour. This tactic is always used by people who want to misuse the Word of God to manipulate and force people into a behaviour that is advantageous to the manipulaters.
Do you deny that this is what Jesus would have done?
21 Sep 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeI don't think that is the case. I think certain "provokers" and "abusers" would be disappointed if people decided to walk away from them more times than not. It's more entertaining that way, IMO.
[b]Darvlay: "Surely any reasonable Christian would simply walk away from provocation whilst on an internet forum!"
Isn't this what your true advice really boils down to ?
Christians should in case of provocation, insults and abuse "simply walk away", maining they should be silent and shut up. The provokers and abusers would love that, don't y ...[text shortened]... because that is exactly what they are after. These Christians should just walk away and shut up.[/b]
21 Sep 05
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Originally posted by darvlayUsing the " ..." signs for the words provokers and abusers reveal more about your stances than all the words you've spent so far on this issue. I get the impression you do not take the subject of abuse very seriously.
I don't think that is the case. I think certain "provokers" and "abusers" would be disappointed if people decided to walk away from them more times than not. It's more entertaining that way, IMO.
I know that amusement and entertainment is an integral and dominant part of popular American culture, but I don't think it is a wise decision to start reasoning within its content and scope in the case of serious discussions on debating forums.
If you want to take this issue of abuse seriously it is the right course of action to adress the initiators of the unwanted and anti-ToS behaviour and not turn the focus of attention towards those who react to it, in a wise or unwise way. Doing this you lay the responsibility for the problem on the shoulders of the wrong party.
The responsible party in changing the unwanted situation is not the one who is the subject of the abuse and reacts to it, but the party who initiates the abuse.