Do you believe in the power of prayer?

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
But that's the point, these things have been happening together for centuries. 2025 is no way unique for having nation rise up against nation in a background of famine, pestilence and earthquakes. These things are part of the human journey through history. A person in the 1600's could just as easily look at the world around them and evidence the same biblical predicti ...[text shortened]... all current world events have been predicted in the bible' is profoundly childlike in its ignorance.

Yeah, I'm afraid I wouldn't go that far.

My philosophy incorporates a 'hand of God' but just a twitch now and again, not a full-scale 'driving of the bus'. But I also feel both options are there, depending on your mental acuity, God's not gonna make things too obvious. And then there's that rascal in the mix, confirmation bias.

@Suzianne said
Yeah, I'm afraid I wouldn't go that far.

My philosophy incorporates a 'hand of God' but just a twitch now and again, not a full-scale 'driving of the bus'. But I also feel both options are there, depending on your mental acuity, God's not gonna make things too obvious. And then there's that rascal in the mix, confirmation bias.

My bus doesn't have a steering wheel. 😲

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
My bus doesn't have a steering wheel. 😲

What does God need with a steering wheel?

(Sorry, not meaning to be facetious. Sorry also about the misappropriation of the line from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. Hmmmm, ok, maybe I do mean to be facetious, it's so hard to tell sometimes. 😏 )

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
My bus doesn't have a steering wheel. 😲

@Ghost,

I for one think you are full of disbelief and unable to understand much, which irks the hell out of you.

-VR

@Very-Rusty said
@Ghost,

I for one think you are full of disbelief and unable to understand much, which irks the hell out of you.

-VR

While I think you are profoundly insecure about your intelligence level.

Again, this isn't the forum for you.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
While I think you are profoundly insecure about your intelligence level.

Again, this isn't the forum for you.

@Ghost,

You think you are above most people and you're really not, if anyone is insecure I would say it is you, trying to prove yourself all the time.

Again, don't be telling me this forum isn't for me. Perhaps you are the one shouldn't be in it!!!

-VR

@Suzianne said
What does God need with a steering wheel?

(Sorry, not meaning to be facetious. Sorry also about the misappropriation of the line from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. Hmmmm, ok, maybe I do mean to be facetious, it's so hard to tell sometimes. 😏 )

'Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end.'

Spock

@Very-Rusty said
@Ghost,

You think you are above most people and you're really not, if anyone is insecure I would say it is you, trying to prove yourself all the time.

Again, don't be telling me this forum isn't for me. Perhaps you are the one shouldn't be in it!!!

-VR

No, just you.

The God of the Old Testament is both needy and petty. I can see why you would be drawn to such a deity.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
No, just you.

The God of the Old Testament is both needy and petty. I can see why you would be drawn to such a deity.

@Ghost,

You know nothing about God, don't try to fool anyone. Only the gullible will buy what your selling.

-VR

@Very-Rusty said
@Ghost,

You know nothing about God, don't try to fool anyone. Only the gullible will buy what your selling.

-VR

This exchange began with you making the bold assertion that all current world events were predicted in the bible. (A clearly ridiculous thing to claim. )

You have however been completely unable to evidence that assertion, revealing the glaring hole in your religious knowledge. (I'm assuming it's something you've heard someone else claim and have taken it at face value without making any attempt to validate for yourself).

At least (educated) Christians like Suzianne can muster some biblical quotes about nations rising up against nation and the like, but even then backs away from the idea that all current world events were predicted centuries ago in the bible. - You stand alone on that claim.

Again, maybe stick to the GF. Quit embarrassing yourself.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
This exchange began with you making the bold assertion that all current world events were predicted in the bible. (A clearly ridiculous thing to claim. )

You have however been completely unable to evidence that assertion, revealing the glaring hole in your religious knowledge. (I'm assuming it's something you've heard someone else claim and have taken it at face va ...[text shortened]... ible. - You stand alone on that claim.

Again, maybe stick to the GF. Quit embarrassing yourself.

@Ghost,
You should try really hard to get the last word in a subject you don't believe in and know less about!!! 😉

Perhaps again You belong in the GF, but then I have noticed you aren't paid much attention to in there. Do you think putting me down and praising Suzianne will help you.

Try standing on your own feet for a change instead of needing people to back you, just once to show you can do it!!!

I am a Roman Catholic and was an alter boy and spoke Latin. I have most likely forgotten more than you know now. I have no intentions of trying to teach you a non believer anything. It is just a waste of time even talking to you.


-VR

@Very-Rusty said
@Ghost,
You should try really hard to get the last word in a subject you don't believe in and know less about!!! 😉

Perhaps again You belong in the GF, but then I have noticed you aren't paid much attention to in there. Do you think putting me down and praising Suzianne will help you.

Try standing on your own feet for a change instead of needing people to back you, just once to show you can do it!!!


-VR

You are out of your depth in most conversations, but especially so in this forum.

Am genuinely embarrassed for you.

@Very-Rusty said

I am a Roman Catholic and was an alter boy and spoke Latin. I have most likely forgotten more than you know now. I have no intentions of trying to teach you a non believer anything. It is just a waste of time even talking to you.


-VR

You appear to have forgotten everything.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
You are out of your depth in most conversations, but especially so in this forum.

Am genuinely embarrassed for you.

@Ghost,
You should be embarrassed for yourself, I grew up and practiced being a Catholic, you grew up believing in nothing!!!

I don't believe you've been genuine about anything you say actually if you want the Truth!!!

-VR

@Very-Rusty said
@Ghost,
You should be embarrassed for yourself, I grew up and practiced being a Catholic, you grew up believing in nothing!!!

I don't believe you've been genuine about anything you say actually if you want the Truth!!!

-VR

Likewise. I trust nothing you write. I have always found you to be petty, thin skinned and dishonest.