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    Where in the quran or any other Islamic holy books does it say that allah loves anyone?
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    29 Apr '15 12:34
    Do a bit of googling whodey, and you will find out. There are no Muslims on this forum to answer your question. If your interest is sincere, it's really easy to research it.
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    29 Apr '15 13:021 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Where in the quran or any other Islamic holy books does it say that allah loves anyone?
    I haver read the Koran not in its entirety but from time to time and I find it to be a very cold book. God is very remote and distant in it. Its essentially an Arabic vision, cool winds, rivers of wine, hareems etc etc
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    29 Apr '15 13:35
    I wish we had more people of other faiths to argue with here.
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    29 Apr '15 13:46
    Originally posted by whodey
    Where in the quran or any other Islamic holy books does it say that allah loves anyone?
    In other words, you are just saying the bible and christianity is a better religion.
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    29 Apr '15 14:061 edit
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    In other words, you are just saying the bible and christianity is a better religion.
    You said it, I did not.

    As for the Bible, it teaches that God is love.

    Pretty strong language if you ask me.

    From my vantage point, Islam is about a war god, nothing more.
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    29 Apr '15 14:29
    Originally posted by whodey
    You said it, I did not.
    But you were thinking it.

    As for the Bible, it teaches that God is love.
    Some of the time. He is also jealous and petty in some parts of the Bible.

    Pretty strong language if you ask me.
    But not true.

    From my vantage point, Islam is about a war god, nothing more.
    Well given your vantage point, that's not saying much.
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    29 Apr '15 14:49
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I wish we had more people of other faiths to argue with here.
    "argue with"

    You'd prefer argument to discussion?

    Maybe that's why there aren't many here.
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    29 Apr '15 15:011 edit
    Originally posted by FMF
    Do a bit of googling whodey, and you will find out. There are no Muslims on this forum to answer your question. If your interest is sincere, it's really easy to research it.
    Why can't you answer this question? After all your bragged about all you Muslim friends in Indonesia and how wonderful they were. 😲
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    29 Apr '15 15:07
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Why can't you answer this question? After all your bragged about all you Muslim friends in Indonesia and how wonderful they were. 😲
    Some questions are not worth answering. For example:

    'What are the intrinsic values of Hinds fundamental beliefs?'
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    I am not Muslim, but a Universal Sufi who studies various sacred texts and practices from a number of traditions...Sufi tradition declares the nature of Allah (the term used for God among Christians and Muslims alike in the Middle East) thusly;

    Ishq Allah Ma'bud 'lillah!"

    Translated: God is Love, Lover, and Beloved...

    In my own experience, Allah loves.
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    Originally posted by hakima
    I am not Muslim, but a Universal Sufi who studies various sacred texts and practices from a number of traditions...Sufi tradition declares the nature of Allah (the term used for God among Christians and Muslims alike in the Middle East) thusly;

    Ishq Allah Ma'bud 'lillah!"

    Translated: God is Love, Lover, and Beloved...

    In my own experience, Allah loves.
    If that is true, why is the region such a war zone?
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    29 Apr '15 21:55
    Originally posted by whodey
    If that is true, why is the region such a war zone?
    It's not true. Muslims are liars just like their father Allah. 😏
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    It's not true. Muslims are liars just like their father Allah. 😏
    You are a puke. You should be banned.
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    29 Apr '15 23:59
    Originally posted by whodey
    If that is true, why is the region such a war zone?
    Sadly, for the same reason Baltimore is, I surmise....

    For me, I stopped sorting out the correctness of a religion based on interpretations of institutions or others' actions based on their interpretations a very long time ago...in fact, it is likely for me that the founder of the religion (the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith) of which I was raised into is most correct in saying that all religion is wrong, "...for they draw near unto me with their lips, yet their hearts are far from me."

    I do not live with my head in the sand ignoring the faults of religion...yet, there is much good to be gleaned from any religious focus if it is approached with an open and honest heart...this is not a prescription for any soul but mine...I hold that one's spiritual path (including that of the atheist--for is not doubt and unbelief a source of spirit?) is personal, as is one's own experience (or lack thereof) with That which is greater than oneself.

    For me...Allah, God, Jehovah, Buddah, Rama, Lady Pele, the Goddess...are all forms and manifestations of That One Love...however named...

    OM Shanti Om
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