Originally posted by KellyJayI believe the Jesus issue is very underscored. Why would our God hold us to a HELL, if we don't believe a story that happened over 2,000 years ago? It seems absurd to me.
Well there are some here that agree with that, I'm not one of them.
I believed He did die for us all, but it is up to us to accept or reject Him, and answer the
High calling He has for us all. Since He did die for all, even those that have done or are
doing the very evil things you talked about can also if they turn to God be saved. Sadly
those that have had bad things done to them, can reject Him as well.
God must be more mature than that? Our entire eternal hell or heaven is based upon a belief of something that happened 2,000 years ago? That is truly absurd to me!!!!
Anybody that reads the bible, and says that we are doomed to a hell, unless we believe this nonsense......is a fool.
You were NOT there KellyJay, 2,000 years ago. You are ONLY going by some passages in our current bible to go on. The real question is this: Why do we put SO much truth on a book? It is really crazy. It is the ultimate form of brainwashing, and cult behavior. You don't truly know anything about Jesus, or God.....except from a book. It is an insult, to try to convince others of a 'belief' from something that you cannot possibly comprehend.
I am sorry. But, today's Christians think they know something, because it is in a 'book', when, truly, YOU KNOW NOTHING, ABOUT ANYTHING.
Originally posted by chaney3It is faith, I grant you I wasn't there 2000 years ago, no one reading these post was except
I believe the Jesus issue is very underscored. Why would our God hold us to a HELL, if we don't believe a story that happened over 2,000 years ago? It seems absurd to me.
God must be more mature than that? Our entire eternal hell or heaven is based upon a belief of something that happened 2,000 years ago? That is truly absurd to me!!!!
Anybody that ...[text shortened]... k they know something, because it is in a 'book', when, truly, YOU KNOW NOTHING, ABOUT ANYTHING.
God. If you actually accept He answers prayer, He is God, the beginning and the end are
the same to Him you'd have to acknowledge He can communicate His will through His
Word and Spirit even today, and because He created our eyes, ears, and brains He could
still get His point across to us.
Originally posted by FMFYes, I know that. But, in this particular thread, the question is if God answers prayer or not. You chose not to address that question, and instead, chose to attack Suzianne on whether she thinks I am a Christian or not. Completely OFF topic FMF.
I answered this question in a post addressed directly to you less than 24 hours ago. It's odd that you are pretending that I didn't.
I will say again, just in case Suzianne is reading, that she obviously doesn't need to comment on my Christianity, just for your sake. Do you get the point FMF?
Originally posted by chaney3A question is: what is the credibility of the pronouncements on Christian "prayer" by a person who thinks that you are a Christian? I think it's relevant.
Yes, I know that. But, in this particular thread, the question is if God answers prayer or not. You chose not to address that question, and instead, chose to attack Suzianne on whether she thinks I am a Christian or not. Completely OFF topic FMF.
Originally posted by chaney3I'd be interested to hear which bits of what you say about your beliefs, and about the Bible and "God", lead her to believe that you are a Christian when you have clearly indicated that you are not.
Yes, I know that. But, in this particular thread, the question is if God answers prayer or not. You chose not to address that question, and instead, chose to attack Suzianne on whether she thinks I am a Christian or not. Completely OFF topic FMF.
I will say again, just in case Suzianne is reading, that she obviously doesn't need to comment on my Christianity, just for your sake. Do you get the point FMF?
I'd be interested to hear if she thinks her perception of you as a Christian ~ and your supposed need to pray to her God figure ~ overrides [in her mind anyway] your self-perception as a non-Christian who thinks the Bible is "BS" and "man made", that the Christian God is worse than Hitler, that prayer is a waste of time, and that no humans know anything about "God".
That's how it fits into the discussion.
Originally posted by FMFYou really are a legend in your own mind, aren't you?
I'd be interested to hear which bits of what you say about your beliefs, and about the Bible and "God", lead her to believe that you are a Christian when you have clearly indicated that you are not.
I'd be interested to hear if she thinks her perception of you as a Christian ~ and your supposed need to pray to her God figure ~ overrides [in her mind anyway] y ...[text shortened]... time, and that no humans know anything about "God".
That's how it fits into the discussion.