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    05 Nov '13 05:03
    This subject comes up from time to time with many comments about God taking life in the past of seemingly innocent ones.
    I know some here express anger and even hatred to a God that would do this.
    Any thoughts as to why he did this and could still possibly do it again?
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    05 Nov '13 05:26
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Does God have the right to kill?
    The word 'right' or 'rights' is a tricky one. I would certainly say God is immoral when he kills.
    Some people think 'might makes right'. In fact one poster once argued that power made morals.
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    05 Nov '13 05:52
    Originally posted by galveston75
    This subject comes up from time to time with many comments about God taking life in the past of seemingly innocent ones.
    I know some here express anger and even hatred to a God that would do this.
    Any thoughts as to why he did this and could still possibly do it again?
    What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.

    You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?


    (Romans 9:14-21 NKJV)

    The apostle Paul appears to be pointing out that God has the right to do what He wants with what He has made, just as as a potter can do as he wills with the clay.

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    05 Nov '13 05:56
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    [b]What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpo ...[text shortened]... s with what He has made, just as as a potter can do as he wills with the clay.

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    Psalm 36:9

    Good News Translation (GNT)



    9 You are the source of all life,
    and because of your light we see the light.

    The Bible shows why we and all other life forms live. God is the sourse of all life.
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    05 Nov '13 05:57
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    The word 'right' or 'rights' is a tricky one. I would certainly say God is immoral when he kills.
    Some people think 'might makes right'. In fact one poster once argued that power made morals.
    So is all killing immoral?
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    05 Nov '13 06:17
    Originally posted by galveston75
    So is all killing immoral?
    It depends on the context.
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    05 Nov '13 06:18
    Originally posted by galveston75
    The Bible shows why we and all other life forms live. God is the sourse of all life.
    How does that have any bearing on the question? You are the source of the life of your children. Do you therefore have the right to kill them?
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    05 Nov '13 06:30
    Originally posted by galveston75
    This subject comes up from time to time with many comments about God taking life in the past of seemingly innocent ones.
    I know some here express anger and even hatred to a God that would do this.
    Any thoughts as to why he did this and could still possibly do it again?
    Anyone who has read Mark Twain's "The Mysterious Stranger" knows that God has that right.
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    05 Nov '13 06:41
    Originally posted by galveston75
    This subject comes up from time to time with many comments about God taking life in the past of seemingly innocent ones.
    I know some here express anger and even hatred to a God that would do this.
    Any thoughts as to why he did this and could still possibly do it again?
    What I find bizarre is that you will defend your god's right to kill and yet not defend your own country, town, house or family if you were invaded or threatened because your religious corporation tells you not to.
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    05 Nov '13 07:04
    Originally posted by galveston75
    This subject comes up from time to time with many comments about God taking life in the past of seemingly innocent ones.
    I know some here express anger and even hatred to a God that would do this.
    Any thoughts as to why he did this and could still possibly do it again?
    Hebrews 9: 27 Everyone must die once, and after that be judged by God.
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    05 Nov '13 07:08
    Originally posted by galveston75
    This subject comes up from time to time with many comments about God taking life in the past of seemingly innocent ones.
    I know some here express anger and even hatred to a God that would do this.
    Any thoughts as to why he did this and could still possibly do it again?
    Morality is subjective.
    I believe killing is wrong.
    But your god has different morals to me.
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    05 Nov '13 07:09
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Hebrews 9: 27 Everyone must die once, and after that be judged by God.
    Try thinking for yourself instead of quoting others.
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    05 Nov '13 07:10
    Originally posted by galveston75
    This subject comes up from time to time with many comments about God taking life in the past of seemingly innocent ones.
    I know some here express anger and even hatred to a God that would do this.
    Any thoughts as to why he did this and could still possibly do it again?
    God doesn't need the right to kill.
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    05 Nov '13 07:171 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Try thinking for yourself instead of quoting others.
    I've gone over this hundreds of times, in detail!
    That scripture lets everyone know God has appointed a time for all us to
    die. God has put up all the boundaries in the universe for freezing, boiling,
    evaporation, the lives of man, and so on. He can choose to do with all of
    the above as He wills.
    Kelly
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    05 Nov '13 07:25
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    How does that have any bearing on the question? You are the source of the life of your children. Do you therefore have the right to kill them?
    Don't overlook the difference between killing and Murder. According to Jesus, it is murder that God commanded man not to do. For example, we are allowed to kill for food and as a part of war. We are not allowed to hate our brother without justification.

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