Does life have value?

Does life have value?

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Originally posted by KellyJay
If you have a mixture of ingredients to make something, and if you mix them wrong you lose
them, because they turn into something else. Would having more time help you, if it is not
done right the first time?
Like baking a cake, say? No, you'd have to start over using a new set ingredients.

But the ocean wasn't ruined or used up when the first proto-cells or whatever failed to survive. And the dead cells merely dissolved and re-joined the ocean. The sun would still be shining, the tides would still flow and the ocean soup of raw material would still be available. The dice get rolled again.

Does that make any sense for you? If not, why not?

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Originally posted by KellyJay
... If your points are all read
these links, I have no idea what your views are, and for all I know you really don't have
any, instead you just googled something someone said, skimmed them thinking they
sound good, because you thought you could post them and end the discussion, instead of
showing you have not really thought about this stuff before.[/b]
lol I suppose from your perspective that is possible.

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Originally posted by apathist
Like baking a cake, say? No, you'd have to start over using a new set ingredients.

But the ocean wasn't ruined or used up when the first proto-cells or whatever failed to survive. And the dead cells merely dissolved and re-joined the ocean. The sun would still be shining, the tides would still flow and the ocean soup of raw material would still be available. The dice get rolled again.

Does that make any sense for you? If not, why not?
New sets of ingredients, that begs the question. You believe you have a limitless amount,
that will show up in the right place, under the right conditions? Why do you think that?

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Originally posted by KellyJay
New sets of ingredients, that begs the question. ...
Wait a minute. I'll address your questions after we deal with your accusation here.

What question did I beg? Where did I use circular reasoning by assuming my conclusion in a premise of my argument? I merely answered your question! And I started doing so with a question mark, so that if I misunderstood the question I obviously was asking for clarification.

You aren't making any sense, and frankly I suspect you don't know what 'begging the question' means. I'd link to an explanation of that fallacy, except well you know.

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Originally posted by apathist
Wait a minute. I'll address your questions after we deal with your accusation here.

What question did I beg? Where did I use circular reasoning by assuming my conclusion in a premise of my argument? I merely answered your question! And I started doing so with a question mark, so that if I misunderstood the question I obviously was asking for clarificati ...[text shortened]... 'begging the question' means. I'd link to an explanation of that fallacy, except well you know.
Assuming you get another chance is a huge assumption. You have any justification for that? The follow up is always going be once a life has started what makes you think nothing would kill it off shortly after starting?

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Assuming you get another chance is a huge assumption.
The relevant exchange went like this:

Kelly :If you have a mixture of ingredients to make something, and if you mix them wrong you lose
them, because they turn into something else. Would having more time help you, if it is not
done right the first time?

Like baking a cake, say? No, you'd have to start over using a new set ingredients.

Kelly :New sets of ingredients, that begs the question.
apathist: What question did I beg?

Kelly :Assuming you get another chance is a huge assumption.
Okay, let me clarify my answer to your question that started this exchange.

If you have a mixture of ingredients to make something, and if you mix them wrong you lose
them, because they turn into something else. Would having more time help you, if it is not
done right the first time?

Like baking a cake, say? No, having more time would not help, if it is not
done right the first time.

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Kelly, did I beg a question?

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Originally posted by apathist
Kelly, did I beg a question?
I will answer soon, life calls.

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Where have I mistakenly evoked evil, please be specific.
Why be specific, you mention the word more than most.

You do remember me saying that 'evil' people are simply ignorant. Remember that? Who is it that said I was mistaken ? It was you. You said evil was real and that I was deluded. Always trying to drag us down ..

"with our thoughts we create the world" , by someone ..

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Not before lunch I hope?

We have baked potatoes.
Sweet potatoes?

You know they taste best when baked ...

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Originally posted by apathist
If knowledge must be absolute, then you're right. But then we don't know if we are really alive and on earth! We could be a virtual simulation in a machine (or the dream of a butterfly!) and the 'real reality' is entirely different then we think. The old brain-in-a-jar or the Matrix philosophy problem. Fun stuff!

Your second point is unlikely to be true, but then I just saw Kong Skull Island.
Is it any good? Worth seeing on the big screen?

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Originally posted by sonship
After all your bluster you fail to see the connection others have with their own beliefs.
We respect your Christianity ,


Oh, the [b]"ANITY"
thing.

1.) Did I say I had Christianity ?
2.) Did I say the Christianity I have you should respect.

I've been talking about Christ. The word "Christianity" creates no warm fuzzy i ...[text shortened]... problem is that all of us, the rest of us, have fallen so far below normality into abnormality.[/b]
Yeah I get it. Your trying to change the language again. Good luck with that. I've tried. 🙂

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Originally posted by karoly aczel...
"with our thoughts we create the world" , by someone ..
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.

Siddhartha Gautama
aka the Buddha, but you knew that

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Originally posted by karoly aczel
Is it any good? Worth seeing on the big screen?
Yeah, it was entertaining. Kong is a good guy.

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Originally posted by apathist
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.

Siddhartha Gautama
[hidden]aka the Buddha, but you knew that[/hidden]
😉