Does proof of God smack of coercion?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
A lot of your posts recently seemed contrived and laboured.

Pages 5 and 6.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
This sounds a little contrived. (Like Gwyneth Paltrow's unconscious uncoupling).

@ghost-of-a-duke said
So it 'was' an unconscious uncoupling, akin to that had by Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Their relationship came to an end as a result of an 'unconscious uncoupling,' in the same way your relationship with Christianity came to an end.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
But you said above it was a "realization and was not the result of a conscious decision." If it wasn't a conscious decision then it must have been unconscious (Like Gwyneth Paltrow).

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Ah, it was an unconscious realization (akin to the one had by Gwyneth Paltrow).

And your posts recently have reminded me of dj2becker.

@fmf said
Pages 5 and 6.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
This sounds a little contrived. (Like Gwyneth Paltrow's unconscious uncoupling).

@ghost-of-a-duke said
So it 'was' an unconscious uncoupling, akin to that had by Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Their relationship came to an end as a result of an 'unconscious uncoupling,' ...[text shortened]... in to the one had by Gwyneth Paltrow).

And your posts recently have reminded me of dj2becker.

Alternatively you have come to the realization that your parting with Christianity actually does mirror the unconscious uncoupling of Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Alternatively you have come to the realization that your parting with Christianity actually does mirror the unconscious uncoupling of Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin.

Just read pages 5 and 6 again. You are blanking out what I am saying in a way that's reminiscent of dj2becker and Romans1009 in their trolling pomp circa 2018.

@fmf said
Just read pages 5 and 6 again. You are blanking out what I am saying in a way that's reminiscent of dj2becker and Romans1009 in their trolling pomp circa 2018.

Taking isolated words like paranoia and deluded and using them every day against an individual is very much in the style of Romans1009 while in his trolling phase.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Taking isolated words like paranoia and deluded and using them every day against an individual is very much in the style of Romans1009 while in his trolling phase.

Ah, so now we see the real reason behind your Gwyneth Paltrow trolling on this thread.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Taking isolated words like paranoia and deluded and using them every day against an individual is very much in the style of Romans1009 while in his trolling phase.

Well, if he'd used them in the same way as I use them, and for the same reason, then it would have been something he was getting right.

@fmf said
Well, if he'd used them in the same way as I use them, and for the same reason, then it would have been something he was getting right.

Using them every day against the same individual has all the hall marks of trolling. (And lazy posting).

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Using them every day against the same individual has all the hall marks of trolling. (And lazy posting).

I only use them when Suzianne posts paranoid or delusional nonsense. It's not "trolling".

@fmf said
I only use them when Suzianne posts paranoid or delusional nonsense. It's not "trolling".

You positively reek of Romans1009. Repetition is a feeble and lazy posting strategy.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
You positively reek of Romans1009. Repetition is a feeble and lazy posting strategy.

If you feel that way, so be it. Perhaps you should offer Suzianne the "repetition is a feeble and lazy posting strategy" advice too.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
God did also (eventually) hardened the Pharaoh's heart, so it could be argued that his response to the ultimatum wasn't entirely in his hands.

True on the hardening. It was a matter for God in making an offer which Pharaoh could not refuse. The symbolism in Exodus also points to offers and ultimatums. With each plague ultimatum offer the Pharaoh's heart was hardened, because losing the slaves was less of a bargain than the outcomes of the plagues. Besides, the plagues were effecting mostly the Egyptian people, but not so much the Pharaoh and his court. It was not until Pharaoh was hit at home, his firstborn son, that he could not refuse the last and final offer, since he figured that if he refused at this point, he would personally be the next victim with an 11th plague.

10 plagues, 10 commandments......God was stressing the importance of the decimal numerical system. God is an absolute mathematician, and can be seen through the math which explains the absolute laws of physics. Try doing the equations without the decimal system, and good luck.

In reading Exodus at face value, superficially, it can be implied that God wanted to show off his power, his mighty hand, and did so by manipulating Pharaoh's mind, and therefore "hardening" his heart. And that's were we get, "he didn't have a heart for it" in releasing the Hebrews. That's the story, I assume. Which, if true, freewill is conditional on the nature of the offer being made.

@fmf said
If you feel that way, so be it. Perhaps you should offer Suzianne the "repetition is a feeble and lazy posting strategy" advice too.

I only offer it to those who need it and are embarrassing themselves by flogging a dead horse.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I only offer it to those who need it and are embarrassing themselves by flogging a dead horse.

If you feel my posting is lazy or embarrassing, then that is a matter for you.

@pettytalk said
True on the hardening. It was a matter for God in making an offer which Pharaoh could not refuse. The symbolism in Exodus also points to offers and ultimatums. With each plague ultimatum offer the Pharaoh's heart was hardened, because losing the slaves was less of a bargain than the outcomes of the plagues. Besides, the plagues were effecting mostly the Egyptian people, but ...[text shortened]... the story, I assume. Which, if true, freewill is conditional on the nature of the offer being made.

I think, through scripture, we see clearly that God isn't above overriding human free will. The Pharaoh's heart being hardened is just one example of that.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I think, through scripture, we see clearly that God isn't above overriding human free will. The Pharaoh's heart being hardened is just one example of that.

And perhaps he's not so omnipotent...he's not overriding FMF's will, but he should, since he's the only one who could. FMF is the chosen one? Black Sabbath's Paranoid.