@fmf saidOh wow, didn't see that.
Look again. The excerpt from the Jewish Virtual Library is simply an excerpt from Wikipedia. Look below the text.
Hey, whatever, it's the kind of mistake Giorgio Agamben, Hannah Arendt, Walter Benjamin, Susan Buck-Morss, Jacques Derrida, Jürgen Habermas, Waldemar Gurian, Jaime Guzmán, Reinhart Koselleck, Friedrich Hayek, Chantal Mouffe, Antonio Negri, Leo Strauss, Adrian Vermeule, and Slavoj Žižek could have made,
So, that information also comes from the compilers over at Wikipedia.
Do you dispute it?
@fmf saidI haven't read Heidegger, and I do not remember much of the overview of Jung that I read two decades ago.
Once again, are there any other Nazi thinkers you are inspired by or is Carl Schmitt the only one?
So I guess it would stand at one. But maybe that'll change after Heidegger, and maybe there is someone else in there that was.
It's definitely a far shorter list than Jewish intellectuals and members of the Communist Party that I have been inspired by. ^^
05 Aug 20
@philokalia saidSo, clips from wikipedia are OK, after all. It's OK - after all - to get a clip from Wikipedia instead of reading the book. Now, it's OK. it's OK when you did it. Ha ha. You are almost beyond parody.
Oh wow, didn't see that.
So, that information also comes from the compilers over at Wikipedia.
Do you dispute it?
05 Aug 20
@philokalia saidDo you feel that Carl Schmitt dehumanized Jewish intellectuals and Jews generally?
It's definitely a far shorter list than Jewish intellectuals and members of the Communist Party that I have been inspired by. ^^
@fmf saidOK, so if you want to interpret Schmitt wrongly from a paragraph in a Wikipedia article, yuo are justified because I have used short blurbs of facts from Wikipedia.
So, clips from wikipedia are OK, after all. It's OK - after all - to get a clip from Wikipedia instead of reading the book. Now, it's OK. it's OK when you did it. Ha ha. You are almost beyond parody.
Got it.
@fmf saidIt would have been hypocritical of him if he did so by invoking humanity as a whole, or some universal value.
Do you feel that Carl Schmitt dehumanized Jewish intellectuals and Jews generally?
I do not know enough about him.
Perhaps you can enlighten us. ^^
05 Aug 20
@philokalia saidSo you don't know enough about Carl Schmitt to know if he dehumanized Jewish intellectuals and Jews generally? Is this because you are "not anti-intellectual"?
It would have been hypocritical of him if he did so by invoking humanity as a whole, or some universal value.
I do not know enough about him.
@fmf saidLOL, @FMF, I am reading his political philosophical works.
So you don't know enough about Carl Schmitt to know if he dehumanized Jewish intellectuals and Jews generally? Is this because you are "not anti-intellectual"?
I am not telling people to not read his works because of the shortcomings in his personal life or career, or his other views that may be very questionable. That would be being anti-intellectual, and against the spirit of free inquiry.
Not knowing everything about Carl Schmitt but reading some of his material is anti-intellectual, if that is what you are trying to imply.
05 Aug 20
@philokalia saidDid Carl Schmitt do this to the Jews?
I guess if I had to draw a line, I would say that you have dehumanized someone when "deprive [them] of human qualities such as individuality, compassion, or civility".
@fmf saidhttps://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/empathy-and-morality.186411/page-13#post_4249133
Did Carl Schmitt do this to the Jews?
05 Aug 20
@philokalia saidAnd yet, this prominent Nazi is apparently your go-to thinker on a thread about "Empathy and Morality". His raw anti-Semitism and his prominence as a member of the Nazi party and his silence and refusal to show any repentance for the Holocaust and the violence against Jews that his political philosophy led to is merely part of his "personal life"? Gosh.
I am not telling people to not read his works because of the shortcomings in his personal life or career, or his other views that may be very questionable. That would be being anti-intellectual, and against the spirit of free inquiry.
05 Aug 20
@philokalia saidDid he or didn't he?
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/empathy-and-morality.186411/page-13#post_4249133
05 Aug 20
@philokalia saidSo, let's be clear. If Carl Schmitt DID dehumanize Jewish intellectuals and Jews generally but did so WITHOUT being hypocritical, then that's OK? Is that what you mean?
It would have been hypocritical of him if he did so by invoking humanity as a whole, or some universal value.
05 Aug 20
@fmf saidWhat are some real-life examples of so-called "misguided empathy"?
While most would agree that one's capacity for empathy is arguably an important basis for morally sound behaviour ~ and without forgetting that this is all in the realm of subjectivity ~ can empathy, in fact, lead to support for - or even participation in - morally unsound actions in certain situations, despite being virtuous in and of itself?
@fmf said... LOL, no.
So, let's be clear. If Carl Schmitt DID dehumanize Jewish intellectuals and Jews generally but did so WITHOUT being hypocritical, then that's OK? Is that what you mean?
I do not support Carl Schmitt's support for the Nazi party.
I support the criticism he made for the Nazi Party, though.
And I enjoyed the Concept of the Political.