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Originally posted by amannionDefine my circular truths, I don't understand what you are implying. My opinions are the ones of every Christian and even if some would disagree with some aspects of my posts, still they would agree that the word of GOD is void of flaw. My ideas are the truths of the Bible, to me, everything elise is folly. I have no opinions that are self-generated, I live by the Bible, I only talk what the Bible says, what I read, understand and interpret. I'm not saying that there is no me, but I am only what the Lord makes me because I have given my life to him and submitted all to him. My opinions and ideas are only Bible influenced. For me to post anything elise, would be in contridiction to my faith religion, and belief in God.
C'mon RS, that's circular ...
You're relying on the Bible to give you the goods on Jesus or the Word or whatever.
Try again.
And when I say argument, I mean in the sense of a debate of ideas.
Not the diatribe that you usually spout ...
Here's and idea that is Biblically written.
The God of Heaven creates every drop of rain in the size that he desires and allows all of them to fall according to the vapor already evaporated. How can you explain the size of rain drops?
Originally posted by amannionYou know I believe that is a good question and may deserve a thread. But the first thing that we believe suggest preeminence was the fact that. Persian priest recognized his birthright and worshiped at his feet according to legend. These men were non-christian and followed a more ancient science or religion if you will. Secondly it was the revelation of the new relationship that all men, who are believers are priveleged to engage in with their God. Father and Son, as far as I can recollect this relational dynamic was totally unheard of in this time. Maybe the third thing that I will suggest is that the term and use of the word Son has a double connotation, and mostly serves as a euphemism regarding the power of the spoken word. Word and Son become synonymous. Because this was first he is recognized as the first born of many Sons that's an agument for preeminence
[b]For the hell of getting you to continue, which is pretty amusing, can you explain, without any circular arguments, why Jesus is so preeminent? What is it about him that puts him above numerous other religious prophets?
Originally posted by royaltystatementThe size of raindrops?
Define my circular truths, I don't understand why you are implying. My opinions are the ones of every Christian and even if some would disagree with some aspects of my posts, still they would agree that the word of GOD is void of flaw. My ideas are the truths of the Bible, to me, everything elise is folly. I have no opinions that are self-generated, ...[text shortened]... o fall according to the vapor already evaporated. How can you explain the size of rain drops?
Is that what you're left to?
Basic physics will explain that ...
You have no opinions that are self-generated.
Hmmm.
So, you're a robot, an automaton then, is that is?
By circular, I meant the way you use the Bible as an explanation for everything. Why is this the case? The bible. Why does that happen? The bible.
At some point in your life, you've read the bible. Probably because you heard about it from someone else (a priest maybe?) who suggested that it contained (cue dramatic music) 'The TRUTH'. You may have grown up with it, or some to it later in your life. But you were told about it from some other person.
How do you make the decision that this book is true? How do you know it is true?
(And again, try to answer without referring back to god or jesus, because you're getting them from the book - and that's circular.)
Originally posted by royaltystatementAnd you try to say that science and spirituality have nothing in common!!!
Define my circular truths, I don't understand why you are implying. My opinions are the ones of every Christian and even if some would disagree with some aspects of my posts, still they would agree that the word of GOD is void of flaw. My ideas are the truths of the Bible, to me, everything elise is folly. I have no opinions that are self-generated, ...[text shortened]... o fall according to the vapor already evaporated. How can you explain the size of rain drops?
Rain is simply the product of the condensation of water vapour. Temperature decrases at appox 1C per 150m in altitude gained. Water condenses, typically onto small particles of dust in the atmosphere, and falls as rain. Temperature, altitude, air quality, air pressure and wind speed all determine rain fall. God has nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by amannionSorry Amannion, you're banging your head against the proverbial brick wall - he'll never get it.
The size of raindrops?
Is that what you're left to?
Basic physics will explain that ...
You have no opinions that are self-generated.
Hmmm.
So, you're a robot, an automaton then, is that is?
By circular, I meant the way you use the Bible as an explanation for everything. Why is this the case? The bible. Why does that happen? The bible.
At some po ...[text shortened]... g back to god or jesus, because you're getting them from the book - and that's circular.)
Originally posted by spiritmangr8nessI'm not buying that.
You know I believe that is a good question and may deserve a thread. But the first thing that we believe suggest preeminence was the fact that. Persian priest recognized his birthright and worshiped at his feet according to legend. These men were non-christian and followed a more ancient science or religion if you will. Secondly it was the revelatio ...[text shortened]... his was first he is recognized as the first born of many Sons that's an agument for preeminence
Persian priests? According to legend?
You can say anything according to legend.
According to legend humans never landed on the moon.
According to legend someone saw the likeness of Mary in a piece of pasta.
Any religion idolises their particular identities. Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, and so on. Christianity is no different.
Jesus was great. Maybe, if you're a christian.
Buddha was great if you're a buddhist.
Mohammad, moses ....
Originally posted by amannionI know that it is true because I know. I don't need proof or validation. Everyone who believes the Word of GOD was with GOD even before the creation of the Earth. I didn't just come to accept this, I have known it since my very existance. No validation is required because my truth was found by me to be universal. The same way Scientists trust that they can perform experiments and find answers, the same way I trust that the word of God answers all questions, the only matter is asking the right questions.
The size of raindrops?
Is that what you're left to?
Basic physics will explain that ...
You have no opinions that are self-generated.
Hmmm.
So, you're a robot, an automaton then, is that is?
By circular, I meant the way you use the Bible as an explanation for everything. Why is this the case? The bible. Why does that happen? The bible.
At some po ...[text shortened]... g back to god or jesus, because you're getting them from the book - and that's circular.)
Originally posted by scottishinnzThat is the belief of the Athiest, the Christian belief is contidictory. Both are entitled to their belief, but only one can be proven by man and only one can be proven by GOD.
And you try to say that science and spirituality have nothing in common!!!
Rain is simply the product of the condensation of water vapour. Temperature decrases at appox 1C per 150m in altitude gained. Water condenses, typically onto small particles of dust in the atmosphere, and falls as rain. Temperature, altitude, air quality, air pressure and wind speed all determine rain fall. God has nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by dottewellWhat are your beliefs? Or do you only believe what can be proven? Can you prove there was evolution or that after death all we see is darkness? Yet the vety existance of Christians here proves there is a GOD.
You are arguing that:
The Christian god is the true god
because
Jesus said so
and
Jesus must be right
because
He is the son of the Christian god
and
The Christian God is the true god
because
Jesus said so...
Originally posted by royaltystatementBuddah??
No, I don't, agreeing with me is not the point that I am here intending to make. I say anyone who rejects the Christ is going to Hell and they are. Even my dad who is Rastafarian might end up in Hell. The word of GOD is plain and simple. No one goes unto the father but by the son Jesus Christ. Not by Halie Selassie, Buddah, or Muhammad, Jesus Christ ...[text shortened]... no Jah, there is no Allah, and no Buddah. Why? Because those Gods were no found through Christ.
I think that's the god that Streisand tries to emulate. I keep hearing people say that she's "just like Buddah."
Originally posted by amannionAllright then, what do you believe happens after a person dies?
I'm not buying that.
Persian priests? According to legend?
You can say anything according to legend.
According to legend humans never landed on the moon.
According to legend someone saw the likeness of Mary in a piece of pasta.
Any religion idolises their particular identities. Buddhism, Islam, Judaism, and so on. Christianity is no different.
Jes ...[text shortened]... . Maybe, if you're a christian.
Buddha was great if you're a buddhist.
Mohammad, moses ....
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Originally posted by royaltystatementYet the very existance of Christians here proves there is a GOD.
What are your beliefs? Or do you only believe what can be proven? Can you prove there was evolution or that after death all we see is darkness?
Really? How?
I believe what I have good reason to believe.