Evidence for FMF

Originally posted by FMF
No. Anyone who kills someone else in the name of religion should have the full force of the criminal law brought down upon them.

What if it is Shiria law and they call on people to stone a woman for apostasy or adultery? That would be legal then.

Originally posted by sonhouse
What if it is Shiria law and they call on people to stone a woman for apostasy or adultery? That would be legal then.

Like I said before, I oppose capital punishment and I condemn any laws or states that punish citizens for reasons of religious affiliation or 'religious crimes'.

Originally posted by FMF
Like I said before, I oppose capital punishment and I condemn any laws or states that punish citizens for reasons of religious affiliation or 'religious crimes'.

But you seem unwilling to condemn Muslims or the religion of Islam that have such laws.

Originally posted by RJHinds
But you seem unwilling to condemn Muslims or the religion of Islam that have such laws.

That's because I don't "condemn Muslims or the religion of Islam". I am quite specific and forthright about what I do condemn, and I am tolerant or ambivalent about the rest.

Originally posted by FMF
That's because I don't "condemn Muslims or the religion of Islam". I am quite specific and forthright about what I do condemn, and I am tolerant or ambivalent about the rest.

That makes you a hypocrite in my opinion.

Originally posted by RJHinds
That makes you a hypocrite in my opinion.

Not so. If I urged you to "condemn Muslims or the religion of Islam" and then didn't "condemn Muslims or the religion of Islam" myself, then THAT would make me a "hypocrite".

Originally posted by FMF
Not so. If I urged you to "condemn Muslims or the religion of Islam" and then didn't "condemn Muslims or the religion of Islam" myself, then THAT would make me a "hypocrite".

True. However, I don't see why saying you condemn the acts that the religion of Islam commands Muslims to do and not condemning the religion and the Muslims that perform those acts makes you any less of a hypocrite.

Originally posted by RJHinds
True. However, I don't see why saying you condemn the acts that the religion of Islam commands Muslims to do and not condemning the religion and the Muslims that perform those acts makes you any less of a hypocrite.

Do I once more have to remind about anti-balaka and the horrors they commit in the name of the christian god, the god you believe in? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka

Remember that this has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with fundamentalism. One of you. So when you criticize fundamentalists, in any religion, then the critics strikes back to yourself.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
Do I once more have to remind about anti-balaka and the horrors they commit in the name of the christian god, the god you believe in? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka

Remember that this has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with fundamentalism. One of you. So when you criticize fundamentalists, in any religion, then the critics strikes back to yourself.

I make no claim to fundamentalism. I claim to be a Christian only.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I make no claim to fundamentalism. I claim to be a Christian only.

You are a fundamentalist. So is Boka Haram. So is Anti-balaka. And further - you share their creationistic views.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
You are a fundamentalist. So is Boka Haram. So is Anti-balaka. And further - you share their creationistic views.

You do not have the authority or ability to define what I am, Bozo.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You do not have the authority or ability to define what I am, Bozo.

No, you have done a FINE job of that all by yourself.

Originally posted by RJHinds
True. However, I don't see why saying you condemn the acts that the religion of Islam commands Muslims to do and not condemning the religion and the Muslims that perform those acts makes you any less of a hypocrite.

Well, I will take my cue, not from your interpretation of Islamic teachings or the interpretations of criminals and terrorists, but from my Muslim neighbours and the community I live in. In a sense, living ~ as I do ~ in the world's largest Muslim population country, I live in the very heart of the Muslim world and it is clear that Islam is not "perpetrating murder and torture and rape and slavery and kidnapping on a global scale" as Dasa claims.

Originally posted by FMF
Well, I will take my cue, not from your interpretation of Islamic teachings or the interpretations of criminals and terrorists, but from my Muslim neighbours and the community I live in. In a sense, living ~ as I do ~ in the world's largest Muslim population country, I live in the very heart of the Muslim world and it is clear that Islam is not "perpetrating murder and torture and rape and slavery and kidnapping on a global scale" as Dasa claims.

Do you condemn the USA's death penalty laws? I certainly do.

Originally posted by twohybrid
Do you condemn the USA's death penalty laws? I certainly do.

Of course. The country I live in also has the death penalty and, although I do not actively work against it, I disagree with it and condemn it.