Originally posted by Palynka
It is sufficient that it is observable by at least one class.
Your criticism could be made to a multitude of processes that involve more than one field of science. And yet I'm sure you wouldn't reject them as 'scientifically observable'.
[b]My claim is that the level of reality on which God's actions can be seen is not one that the sciences study.
...[text shortened]... scussing its effects. Are they visible/perceivable? If yes, why are they not identifiable?[/b]
It is sufficient that it is observable by at least one class.
No, it isn't.
As I said earlier, 'science' is not one monolithic discipline. Perhaps there was a time when scientists thought there could be a "Grand Unified Theory" of science, but that is no longer the case. 'Science' is a set of disciplines (many of which are disputed as 'sciences'😉 that purport to share a common methodology (and even that is contested with many sciences); they "slice" reality differently. Phenomena that are observable in one scientific discipline cannot even be observed in another, let alone explained. A physicist cannot produce a physical explanation for the Great Depression simply because the term 'depression' is meaningless within his domain. Sure, he could isolate a set of physical observables and call them 'The Great Depression', but he would already step "outside" his discipline doing so.
The term 'miracle' is meaningless to a scientist (most disciplines) because it simply cannot even be defined in that domain; therefore he cannot (without stepping outside the scientific box) even observe them.
Your criticism could be made to a multitude of processes that involve more than one field of science. And yet I'm sure you wouldn't reject them as 'scientifically observable'.
In many contexts it is obvious which scientific displine is being spoken about. But, as I pointed out earlier, there are already several phenomena/aspects of reality that
none of the sciences can observe and yet we accept them without question.
Perhaps. But I'm discussing its effects. Are they visible/perceivable? If yes, why are they not identifiable?
See earlier on 'miracle'. If you followed my discussion on the miracle of Barnabas, hopefully you have understood the reason by now.