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Evolution question????

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Originally posted by galveston75
... as we're supposed to be the most advanced species on earth so they say?
Who are the "they" that say this? Those that do not understand Evolution I suppose?

All creatures evolve to be best suited to their niche in their environment - we had this debate a while ago methinks.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Who are the "they" that say this? Those that do not understand Evolution I suppose?

All creatures evolve to be best suited to their niche in their environment - we had this debate a while ago methinks.
I'm more interested in the first part of my question being answered...

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
I thought you'd studied evolution 'all your life'? Surely you should know the answers already?!
Well I'm sure you have too and I still have never got any answer from you that shows proof of anything.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Well I'm sure you have too and I still have never got any answer from you that shows proof of anything.
The blunt answer is we're not quite sure yet, but it's being worked on. In the meantime you can explain to us how God did it, because there is no such thing as evolution right?

The stage is yours Galvo.

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Originally posted by galveston75
I'm more interested in the first part of my question being answered...
And I'm interested in my question being answered.
I've done you the service of answering your questions (I was the first to reply to your opening post) why not recipricate and answer my question? After all it was only to clarify what you meant.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
The blunt answer is we're not quite sure yet, but it's being worked on. In the meantime you can explain to us how God did it, because there is no such thing as evolution right?

The stage is yours Galvo.
Ok..lets keep this simple. Let's talk about the human brain and the huge gap between us and any other living being on this planet. If we had evolved from whatever, why is this gap so huge and yes it gets wider everyday as we learn more about the human brain.
But keeping it simple for you, explain how we have the conscienceness that we do as opposed to any animal?

Now I could throw all kinds of articals at you, not from the WTS, about the complex human brain but I doubt your read them. So instead of that and all you have to do is open your eyes and look at all the universe around you and the .00000000000000000001 % of what we might know, just explain how the conscience that we have just happend and why the huge gap that exist from our so called closest relatives the apes or monkeys or whatever it is now?

Sorry but I meant to answer your question about how God created all things. He did it with wisdom and ways we'll never understand as we are not his equal with knowledge and never will be. You hate that answer I bet....

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
And I'm interested in my question being answered.
I've done you the service of answering your questions (I was the first to reply to your opening post) why not recipricate and answer my question? After all it was only to clarify what you meant.
Well aren't we? Now your answer.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Who are the "they" that say this? Those that do not understand Evolution I suppose?

All creatures evolve to be best suited to their niche in their environment - we had this debate a while ago methinks.
Are there limits to creature evolving into their enviroment? Saying that
creatures evolve due to their enviroment doesn't mean they will do anything
beyond enhance thier already natural traits, it does not mean they will
acquire new ones like wings or lungs if they now need them.
Kelly

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Originally posted by galveston75
Well aren't we? Now your answer.
Is that an answer?

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Is that an answer?
Yes it is. What life on this planet is higher advanced then we are expecially on a mental level?

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Originally posted by KellyJay
Are there limits to creature evolving into their enviroment? Saying that
creatures evolve due to their enviroment doesn't mean they will do anything
beyond enhance thier already natural traits, it does not mean they will
acquire new ones like wings or lungs if they now need them.
Kelly
True. If that were the case then humans should have wings, gills, huge muscles, superior eye sight, bone crushing jaws, etc, etc, etc.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Yes it is. What life on this planet is higher advanced then we are expecially on a mental level?
You are changing the question.

Originally posted by galveston75
... as we're supposed to be the most advanced species on earth so they say?

Your problem is your anthropocentrism - there was a debate in the Science Forum about the most successful creatures on Earth. There were many candidates put forward. You should read it.

I think you also want to give Evolution a purpose - I guess because you see Evolution as the atheists replacement for a god - but there are many theists who can incorporate Evolution into their religious beliefs. Evolution no more replaces god than Relativity, Probability or Algebra - it does however explain how we came about without resorting to magic.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
You are changing the question.

Originally posted by galveston75
[b]... as we're supposed to be the most advanced species on earth so they say?


Your problem is your anthropocentrism - there was a debate in the Science Forum about the most successful creatures on Earth. There were many candidates put forward. You should read it.

I thin ...[text shortened]... Probability or Algebra - it does however explain how we came about without resorting to magic.[/b]
It explains nothing. No proof that evolution has happened or is happening now.
I understand that we want to know the answers to the mysteries of the universe. We have learned much and will continue to learn more. But the more we learn the more we see the complexities involved and the more we know evolution cannot work.
But if one does not believe in a God and the wisdom and means that he has to create then one would no doubt look for answers such as the THEORY of evolution.

And I do understand adaptation within it's limits, God created living things with that ability.

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Originally posted by galveston75
It explains nothing. No proof that evolution has happened or is happening now.
I understand that we want to know the answers to the mysteries of the universe. We have learned much and will continue to learn more. But the more we learn the more we see the complexities involved and the more we know evolution cannot work.
But if one does not believe in ...[text shortened]... And I do understand adaptation within it's limits, God created living things with that ability.
You start the thread with a question about Evolution and now you dismiss Evolution entirely. Wasnt that a little dishonest? Do you not want to debate or discuss your opening post?

And is response to your capitalisation of THEORY I will, as has been done for you countless times by others, direct you to the meaning of theory in this context.

"A common distinction sometimes made in science is between theories and hypotheses, with the former being considered as satisfactorily tested or proven and the latter used to denote conjectures or proposed descriptions or models which have not yet been tested or proven to the same standard."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
You start the thread with a question about Evolution and now you dismiss Evolution entirely. Wasnt that a little dishonest? Do you not want to debate or discuss your opening post?

And is response to your capitalisation of THEORY I will, as has been done for you countless times by others, direct you to the meaning of theory in this context.

"A com ...[text shortened]... t yet been tested or proven to the same standard."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
No not at all. I was looking for some explination with proof of how this could just happen and no one has answered it yet.