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Originally posted by bbarr
No, I can imbue my life with purpose in virtue of the choices I make, the values to which I subscribe, and by acting with integrity. You labor under the misapprehension that purpose is such that it can only be imbued from a force external to a life.
So you can create your own purpose in life?

If you think that your purpose is to buthcher a few million humans, who is going to stop you?

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Originally posted by bbarr
Yes, by their own entrails if possible.
So boiling cabbage for lunch is a crime?

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Originally posted by dj2becker
Please explain the difference.
This difference is one of rhetorical impact, as should be obvious to anybody with a brain in their head.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
So boiling cabbage for lunch is a crime?
Boiling cabbage is a crime. Rather lightly stir fry it--you'll never eat boiled cabbage again.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
So you can create your own purpose in life?

If you think that your purpose is to buthcher a few million humans, who is going to stop you?
Yes, and nobody.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
There is no difference. We shouldn't squish bugs.
What do you eat?

Plants? (sic)

Meat? (sic)

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Originally posted by dj2becker
So boiling cabbage for lunch is a crime?
Perhaps of the aesthetic variety.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
What do you eat?

Plants? (sic)

Meat? (sic)
Fruit, nuts & locusts.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
That answers my question.
Now for the next question:
What differentiates a human from an animal and plant material?
Do you think it is wrong to kill a fellow human being? Why? What's the difference between killing a human being and squishing a bug?
Taking things from a biological perspective, humans differ from other animals (and animals) primarily in that humans cannot breed with other animals (and animals).
From a social psychology perspective, humans have developed a society unlike any other (that I am aware of) as humans create tools for use by large groups of other humans. Those few other species which fashion tools, do not seem to do so with the forethought that humans do (or potentially with much greater forethought).

"Wrong" is a human social construct; essentially, in a human society, what is "wrong" is what the majority of humans in a given society would dislike or punish a member of their society for doing.
There are some near-universals, such as killing a fellow human, which make sense: given that a group of humans are functioning as a unit, clearly the members would like for the group to continue functioning. Therefore, behaviors should support the future-functioning of the group; allowing members to kill each other will not support that. Nextly, a human which has reproduced clearly does not want that effort to be wasted, and therefore will go to great lengths to protect its children. Finally comes the need to personally survive; without feeling a need to survive, a being will not survive unless something else forces it to do so.

Bugs are a minor impedence to our survival, and do not directly further it. Therefore, killing a bug may help, but has only a minimal chance of hurting.

There is the difference.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
So you can create your own purpose in life?
If you think that your purpose is to buthcher a few million humans, who is going to stop you?
Other humans, who do not want to be butchered, and the society those humans are part of, which as a collective works toward survival.
"Create your own purpose"... hmmm. I would have to say that since science avoids the question of purpose, and we were exploring scientific explanations, this isn't an appropriate question.
However, since it was posed, a relatively strong social theory of why religions exist is pretty much that: to give people purpose, and to provide an answer to the unknowables of the world, because humans have a natural desire to know the answers to every question they think of.

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Originally posted by bbarr
This difference is one of rhetorical impact, as should be obvious to anybody with a brain in their head.
Those that use their god-given brain will realise that in both cases they only need nutrition and oxygen to "stay alive".

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Fruit, nuts & locusts.
What's the difference between eating a locust and a human?

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Originally posted by dj2becker
What's the difference between eating a locust and a human?
I haven't tried both as yet, but when I do I'll be sure to let you know.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
What's the difference between eating a locust and a human?
The taste

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Originally posted by dj2becker
[b]This does not follow. What do you mean by a "purpose in life" anyway? This seems to me like another phrase which sounds profound and means nothing.

If evolution has no purpose, it means you are an accident and therefore you have no purpose.

Nothing differentiates humans from animals except that "human" is more specific than "animal ir lives to save their young for example.

Thus does not follow. Evolution has no purpose.[/b]
it means you are an accident and therefore you have no purpose.

That doesn't follow either. If accident then no purpose...doesn't work.

So should lumberjacks be hanged?

I don't think so. Trees don't suffer or experience pleasure as far as I can tell.

Thus does not follow. Evolution has no purpose.

That makes no sense. First, 'this' is misspelled. Second, I never mentioned a purpose. Third, I didn't use an if-then idea, so there's nothing following anything else in the sense of your objection.

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