28 Jan '06 21:42>
A person on this forum argued that the gospels must be true because if they weren't the gospel writers must be liars (and it would an amazing psychological occurence if their mendacity was affirmed). I ask, are the writers of other religious documents also liars? (well accordingly they must be). Are the writers of other gopels also liars? (apparently so).
So we are wittnessing copious "psychological occurences" in religion. Amazing!
This leads me to another question, why believe in one gospel and not the other? Many on this site might retort that it is "gods grace" but then why do others have conflicting beliefs also caused by "gods grace." I remember St. Paul the apostle reminding Christians tha faith is belief in the unseen. So theists are basically asking us (non-belivers) to believe in them by abandoning all intellectual chellenge.
I recently read a book endorsed by the late John Paul the second. One of its arguments for believing in God was because Jesus says "if you dont, you go to hell" (I think this conviction is conveyed in Jesus' parable about the wheat (unbelievers) being thrown into the fire (hell).
However, to acquiesce to the book's argument means we have to already "believe" because we have to believe Jesus was right. Thus, to believe in Jesus, we mut already believe in Jesus. Sounds a bit strange.
Please enlighten me why theists have such strange logic.
So we are wittnessing copious "psychological occurences" in religion. Amazing!
This leads me to another question, why believe in one gospel and not the other? Many on this site might retort that it is "gods grace" but then why do others have conflicting beliefs also caused by "gods grace." I remember St. Paul the apostle reminding Christians tha faith is belief in the unseen. So theists are basically asking us (non-belivers) to believe in them by abandoning all intellectual chellenge.
I recently read a book endorsed by the late John Paul the second. One of its arguments for believing in God was because Jesus says "if you dont, you go to hell" (I think this conviction is conveyed in Jesus' parable about the wheat (unbelievers) being thrown into the fire (hell).
However, to acquiesce to the book's argument means we have to already "believe" because we have to believe Jesus was right. Thus, to believe in Jesus, we mut already believe in Jesus. Sounds a bit strange.
Please enlighten me why theists have such strange logic.