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@KellyJay said
No, I want you to admit you just lied about Jesus saying we don't need anyone's words other than His when it comes to scripture.
I never said that Jesus said "..we don't need anyone's words other than His.. .
You made that up.

I SAID THAT. I said that Jesus's words are sufficient for eternal life. Reason is that he taught everything that is required, and Jesus said to FOLLOW HIM>

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@Rajk999 said
If a man has the words of Jesus, then he does not need any other person, apostle, pastor, ete, many of whom are fallible men.
Really?

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@Rajk999 said
I never said that Jesus said "..we don't need anyone's words other than His.. .
You made that up.

I SAID THAT. I said that Jesus's words are sufficient for eternal life. Reason is that he taught everything that is required, and Jesus said to FOLLOW HIM>
You want to ignore everyone God sent and only look at what Jesus said, is not what Jesus taught, stop lying.

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@KellyJay said
Really?
Yes. He needs no one else. If can if he so desires listen to many other speakers and preachers, but these are not necessary for eternal life, if you have listened to and understood what Jesus said.

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@KingDavid403 said
The only fake Christians around, are THE ones that do not follow and grow in the teachings of JESUS but claim too.
All the rest of your self-righteous judgmental bull-crap written here you can stick it. If you need instructions let me know.
Yes please instruct me, do it in the spirit of kindness if you don't mind.

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@Rajk999 said
Yes. He needs no one else. If can if he so desires listen to many other speakers and preachers, but these are not necessary for eternal life, if you have listened to and understood what Jesus said.
You did read the quotes about every word that comes from God, didn't you?

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@KellyJay said
You did read the quotes about every word that comes from God, didn't you?
Well you will be in trouble because the bible you use was tampered with by the Catholic Church, and others who removed books from the original Hebrew or Greek manuscripts.

Were these not part of the 'every word of God' ? Have you read these?

So you go chasing after every word... Im going to stay with the teachings of Christ. Good luck

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@Rajk999 said
Well you will be in trouble because the bible you use was tampered with by the Catholic Church, and others who removed books from the original Hebrew or Greek manuscripts.

Were these not part of the 'every word of God' ? Have you read these?

So you go chasing after every word... Im going to stay with the teachings of Christ. Good luck
Every word that comes from God and you are not telling people to do that, instead, you are telling them to pay attention to only a few words, the one that Jesus spoke.

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@KellyJay said
Yes please instruct me, do it in the spirit of kindness if you don't mind.
[Matthew 18:1-5 NKJV] 1 At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, "Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" 2 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, 3 and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 "Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

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@KellyJay said
You have no idea, I'm going to stop talking to you now.
Ahh the old “stoppage of talk” techniques; that will put people in their place won’t it 😂

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@KellyJay said

One of the reasons is that you can have someone claiming to be a fake Christian is the claim they are but acts as if s/he were an Athiest with no fear of God in their lives.
Who are these people “claiming to be fake Christians” KellyJay?

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@KingDavid403 said
[Matthew 18:1-5 NKJV] 1 At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, "Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" 2 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, 3 and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 "Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Good reference. We are pretty safe in saying that the little child was not a Christian, since there was no such religion at that time, and therefore neither a genuine one nor a fake one.

For me, the most telling passage in the NT is that wherein a Roman centurion comes to Jesus and asks a favour, for his (the Roman's) servant has fallen ill. Jesus says the most astonishing thing to him: "Your faith has healed him." Not "I, Jesus, have healed him by divine miracle, but your faith has healed him." What could possibly have been the 'faith' of a pagan? Nothing to do with doctrines later invented and inserted into the NT (which did not exist then) about a Trinity or a resurrection or a virgin birth etc. etc. "The documents have been tampered with" as H.L. Mencken remarked.

A Roman centurion, part of the occupation army in the Levant at that time, would have been a man of considerable position who commanded people and was accustomed to getting obedience without question. Yet he humbles himself to ask a favour of a man of low station (a carpenter's son) for the benefit of one of his servants, also of low station. Simple humility in the service of those less fortunate then oneself -- that's the message. And Jesus blesses him. I don't see how any thinking person can miss that message, and yet, right here this thread we see people who call themselves Christians wrangling over abstruse interpretations to establish who is a real Christian or a fake Christian. Maybe they'd have more success as pagan soldiers in an occupied land.

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@KingDavid403 said
[Matthew 18:1-5 NKJV] 1 At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, "Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?" 2 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, 3 and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 "Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
And that corrects something I said how?

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@KingDavid403 said
The only fake Christians around, are THE ones that do not follow and grow in the teachings of JESUS but claim too.
Indeed sir. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Indeed sir. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
What flavor is the pudding? I may want some of it myself..... the proof.

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