Famous Scientists Who Believed in God

Originally posted by twhitehead
I don't believe you. I think you wanted to make a point, but are not willing to be specific about what your point is, because you fear that you will look like a fool when your point gets discredited.

don't you! I dont give F#?! what you think

Originally posted by humy
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/sciencefaith.html
“...The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." ...”

When Einstein talked about “God”, he was not talking about a supernatural god but of “everything”. And what he meant by “God” i ...[text shortened]... guess that destroys what little religious propaganda value this thread may have had.

You are trying to disprove something you call propagnada with even more
propaganda. Where is the logic?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
no he didnt.

Yes He did. HalleluYah !!! 😏

Originally posted by humy
“...set aside your scientific principles for a few moments ...”

you are asking him to be stupid for a few moments.
What do you think are the chances of him doing this?

Maybe he is already being stupid.

Originally posted by tim88
don't you! I dont give F#?! what you think

You clearly do, or you wouldn't be resorting to bad language.

Why is it so hard to just be honest and make your point? Why is lying for God so popular?

Originally posted by twhitehead
You clearly do, or you wouldn't be resorting to bad language.

Why is it so hard to just be honest and make your point? Why is lying for God so popular?

Why is lying for God so popular?

Jesus sheds some light on those who do in the following:
John 8
44“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You are trying to disprove something you call propagnada with even more
propaganda. Where is the logic?

“...You are trying to disprove something ..”

what is this “something” that I am trying to disprove?
tim88 never said what he was trying to prove ( if anything ) .

And do you deny the statistical facts in http://www.ehow.com/info_8115822_studies-iq.html ?

if not, then it cannot be mere "propaganda" because it is the "facts".

Originally posted by humy
That is what I also suspected of him.
I think I have discredited any implied point he may have secretly wished to make with my main posting on this page where I gave the link:

http://www.ehow.com/info_8115822_studies-iq.html
[b]“...Studies about IQ have come to the conclusion that religious people are less intelligent than atheists. According to a 1986 ar ...[text shortened]... to be religious....
….
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I wonder why religious people generally have lower IQ ? 😛

Perhaps it is just as pertinent to ask why people with low IQ scores have a greater tendency toward having religious beliefs?

Could it be related to the dominant cerebral hemisphere phenomenon? I believe there were studies regarding Artistic versus mathematical abilities.

P.s have tried google but my work based p.c keeps filtering out the search results.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Maybe he is already being stupid.

No. If he was already stupid then he probably would be believing there is a supernatural god:


http://www.ehow.com/info_8115822_studies-iq.html

“...Studies about IQ have come to the conclusion that religious people are less intelligent than atheists.
…
"Studies have consistently found that the lower the IQ score, the more likely a person is to be religious....
…. “

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you prove that he isn't.

I already have proved this

Originally posted by humy
No. If he was already stupid then he probably would be believing there is a supernatural god:


http://www.ehow.com/info_8115822_studies-iq.html

“...Studies about IQ have come to the conclusion that religious people are less intelligent than atheists.
…
"Studies have consistently found that the lower the IQ score, the more likely a person is to be religious....
…. “

I would not put too much trust in the conclusions. These people have a tendency
to do a lot of assuming.

Originally posted by twhitehead
You clearly do, or you wouldn't be resorting to bad language.

Why is it so hard to just be honest and make your point? Why is lying for God so popular?

Unlike me, he at least censored his language for you. HalleluYah !!! 😏

Originally posted by Penguin
I think what we can conclude from it is that as time goes on, fewer and fewer intelligent, educated and thoughtful people believe in a personal God.

The fact that you choose to trumpet the existence of the minority who still do have such a belief reveals your insecurity and need for external justification.

--- Penguin.

I'm not sure which is worse, listening to this or Dasa.

Originally posted by whodey
I'm not sure which is worse, listening to this or Dasa.

I think he is trying to be an amateur Psychologist like these guys.

http://www.chriswalkeronline.com/chris_blog/2010/03/amateur-psychology-walkers-law-of-lesser-pissers.html

http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2002.7.21.17159.2184.html

Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
What I hear SH saying is that there is no evidence of the existence of God. In what way do you see this position as being a product of ego? If anything, the insistence of the existence of God without evidence seems to point to ego: The individual has anxiety/fear of the unknown and his ego constructs the notion of God and all that goes with it, in order t ...[text shortened]... idual then defends his notion of God in order to protect that which alleviates his anxiety/fear.

The Saints and theistic philosophers that India has produced over the ages are innumerable. Many of them are living today. Their sayings, the poetry or prose that they wrote, the advice that they gave to the troubled and the unhappy is all very well known and in many cases written down. None--- I repeat NONE-- of these persons have exhibited any anxiety of any kind, let alone fear of the unknown. On the contrary, their overridingly common characteristics were Confidence and Serenity. They had firsthand Knowledge of God and this experience is enough to liberate anyone from all earthly chains and bonds like ego and fear and so on.
I am not insisting on the existence of God. This is a matter of personal belief and moreover that of direct experience. I am on my way there but I have yet to realize God. I wish, though, that I could convince you or Sonhouse in some way of the existence of God. Sonhouse is a grandfather. So I did ask him sometime ago, whether when looking at the smile of his grandchild he was not convinced of the existence of God. I do not think he replied that.
Unless one gets one's ego out of the way, there is no learning possible. Surely, that is there in your Psychology Primer that you are chucking at me ?