31 Jan '08 12:07>
Causality is an area where theists are keen to posit the necessity of their god as being the first cause. If every effect needs a cause, you are, it seems, left in an endless causal chain. God is supposedly the only way out of that infinite regress, as he would be the original cause.
So the theists tell us that if we accept that every effect has a cause, in order to rescue causality from the problem of infinite regression, every causal chain must necessarily originate with god. If there can be any causal chains which do not originate from god, then we simply do not need to posit god as being the first cause.
Now fast forward to the present. If some calamity occurs, like a tsunami that wipes out 100,000+ people, or if a murderer shoots down a dozen people in a shopping mall, the theists are quick to claim that the causal chains which led to these events simply cannot be traced back to god. It would seem, in light of this, that there are causal chains which apparently do not have god as a first cause.
If any causal chain can originate independently from god, then god fails as an explanation behind causality. In this case, either causal chains really are infinite, or they can have some other first source which is not god, which makes god completely superfluous.
In order to rescue their god as being the ultimate first cause, the theists must claim that EVERY causal chain necessarily leads back to god. But the implications behind this are dire. For one, the universe would necessarily be a pre-determined one. There could be absolutely no room for "free will" there. God would be the ultimate cause behind everything, good, evil, and indifferent throughout the universe. God would be the ultimate cause behind every tsunami and mall shooting that ever occurred, or ever will occur.
The only way the theist can unhinge their god from responsibility in these cases is to remove him as being the ultimate first cause. But the implications behind this are equally dire for them. For if god is not the originator of every causal chain, then causality simply has no need for god, and he can safely be dispensed with.
So the theists are left with either a necessary, but cruel god, with a pre-determined universe, or with a completely unnecessary and ineffectual god whom we need take no further note of. Not an enviable choice.
So the theists tell us that if we accept that every effect has a cause, in order to rescue causality from the problem of infinite regression, every causal chain must necessarily originate with god. If there can be any causal chains which do not originate from god, then we simply do not need to posit god as being the first cause.
Now fast forward to the present. If some calamity occurs, like a tsunami that wipes out 100,000+ people, or if a murderer shoots down a dozen people in a shopping mall, the theists are quick to claim that the causal chains which led to these events simply cannot be traced back to god. It would seem, in light of this, that there are causal chains which apparently do not have god as a first cause.
If any causal chain can originate independently from god, then god fails as an explanation behind causality. In this case, either causal chains really are infinite, or they can have some other first source which is not god, which makes god completely superfluous.
In order to rescue their god as being the ultimate first cause, the theists must claim that EVERY causal chain necessarily leads back to god. But the implications behind this are dire. For one, the universe would necessarily be a pre-determined one. There could be absolutely no room for "free will" there. God would be the ultimate cause behind everything, good, evil, and indifferent throughout the universe. God would be the ultimate cause behind every tsunami and mall shooting that ever occurred, or ever will occur.
The only way the theist can unhinge their god from responsibility in these cases is to remove him as being the ultimate first cause. But the implications behind this are equally dire for them. For if god is not the originator of every causal chain, then causality simply has no need for god, and he can safely be dispensed with.
So the theists are left with either a necessary, but cruel god, with a pre-determined universe, or with a completely unnecessary and ineffectual god whom we need take no further note of. Not an enviable choice.