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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke"12 And there came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet, saying,..."
Less complaint, more observation. 🙂
"There came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet", sounds to me like someone had
a writing of Elijah and it came to him, it doesn't mean that Elijah wrote it specifically to him.
It could have, also said there came to him a writing from Moses, saying...that would not
mean that Moses came back from the dead to write him, only that the writing was from
Moses.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeI think what happened to Enoch has some similarities. There are people that God like and favours, and these people get special attention. They get taken on journeys through the heavens and are shown things which ordinary people are not privy to. Paul is another such case. I think several of the prophets also had similar experiences and wrote about them but these writings were excluded from the KJV. Who knows how many other thousands of people had these experiences. The Bible does not record every such story.
Well, the biblical passage refers to him as 'Elijah the prophet' so i think it highly likely we are talking about the same guy.
And I don't see how it could have been written in advance when he speaks of things that haven't happen yet in a past tense. (Even if he was a prophet).
The point is that in Enoch's case, he seems to have passed on his knowledge after he was taken by God, because his descendants were able to write about it hence the Book of Enoch, which got included in several versions of the Bible of the early church.
After God takes someone that does not necessarily exclude communication with earthlings.
Originally posted by KellyJay'Jehoram received a letter from Elijah the prophet.'
"12 And there came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet, saying,..."
"There came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet", sounds to me like someone had
a writing of Elijah and it came to him, it doesn't mean that Elijah wrote it specifically to him.
It could have, also said there came to him a writing from Moses, saying...that would not
mean that Moses came back from the dead to write him, only that the writing was from
Moses.
I think it is quite clear in the above translation that the letter came directly to Jehoram from Elijah. (Not that it was passed on by an intermediary some years later).
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeYou do like to play a kind of theological "Stump the Chumps," don't you ?
2 Kings 2:1 tells us quite clearly that Elijah was taken up by a whirlwind into heaven. Why is it then that some 900 years later we have Jesus telling us, "no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven..." (John 3:13).
How is this not a biblical contradiction? (I will casually shrug off the '3 heavens' argument).
Originally posted by sonshipYou have requested (more than once) that non-believers give you their best 'biblical contradictions' for you to dispel.
You do like to play a kind of theological "Stump the Chumps," don't you ?
Your lack of attempt to dispel this current contradiction regarding Elijah does seem to suggest you are theologically stumped.
Originally posted by KellyJayCome on old chap, even taking for example the book of Isaiah, it is commonly accepted (even among theist scholars) that there were multiple authors involved in its writing. - Is your position that all these authors 'met God?'
Man wrote the Bible, its the Word of God because they were men who met God.