1. Standard membergalveston75
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    17 May '11 22:02
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I am afraid I can't. I do not have satellite tv. If the show is available for free on the internet I might consider it.
    It's pretty good but the main thing to see is what Thinkofone posted.
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    17 May '11 22:38
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Just watched a Nat Geo show on the Mayan 2012 prediction of the end of the world. In some of the research this show is reporting on was a really interesting side point that paleoclimatologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State, has discovered. It seems that in most ice caps throughout the world as they continue to melt to levels never seen, something pretty ...[text shortened]... to me only an earthwide flood could have caused this type of situation they are now discovering.
    Holy crap - please tell me this is a joke. It must be a joke. What bizzarro world do you come from?
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    18 May '11 00:02
    Originally posted by amannion
    Holy crap - please tell me this is a joke. It must be a joke. What bizzarro world do you come from?
    Uh, maybe a clear one and not one full of theories and thoughts of godless men who will come up with any ideas just to try and convience themselve that there is no god?
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    18 May '11 00:39
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Uh, maybe a clear one and not one full of theories and thoughts of godless men who will come up with any ideas just to try and convience themselve that there is no god?
    Yeah, thought you weren't joking.
    I guess it takes all kinds ... but you and your views really are utterly incomprehensible to me.
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    18 May '11 02:57
    Originally posted by amannion
    Yeah, thought you weren't joking.
    I guess it takes all kinds ... but you and your views really are utterly incomprehensible to me.
    No my problem and sorry you don't understand.
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    18 May '11 03:00
    Originally posted by galveston75
    No my problem and sorry you don't understand.
    Don't be sorry.
    I'm glad to live in this world - this real world.
    I don't want to live in a world that's governed by incomprehensible rules, where supernatural entities are not only possible, but exist and control everything.
    What a horrible place to be in.
    I'm thankful that's not my universe.
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    18 May '11 07:04
    Originally posted by amannion
    Don't be sorry.
    I'm glad to live in this world - this real world.
    I don't want to live in a world that's governed by incomprehensible rules, where supernatural entities are not only possible, but exist and control everything.
    What a horrible place to be in.
    I'm thankful that's not my universe.
    Glad your happy there....
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    18 May '11 08:30
    Originally posted by galveston75
    It's pretty good but the main thing to see is what Thinkofone posted.
    I checked his first link and it contradicted what you said. Does his second link have anything that supports your comments? If so, what do I click on to get there? (Its not on the first page that comes up when I go to his link and I don't think they show the whole episode).
  9. Standard memberRJHinds
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    18 May '11 09:02
    Originally posted by amannion
    Don't be sorry.
    I'm glad to live in this world - this real world.
    I don't want to live in a world that's governed by incomprehensible rules, where supernatural entities are not only possible, but exist and control everything.
    What a horrible place to be in.
    I'm thankful that's not my universe.
    This real world is one created by God and His rules are not
    incomprehensible. There is no other world except in the
    imaginations of man. The movies are full of these imaginary
    worlds.
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    18 May '11 09:23
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Not according to the link ThinkOfOne has furnished us with which is about Lonnie Thompson. He mentions two samples (both from nearly the same place) that are dated about 5000 years. He then mentions another sample that is about 50,000 years old.
    The 50,000 year old date appears to be an error note the
    following link:

    http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/quelcoro.htm
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    18 May '11 09:29
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    This real world is one created by God and His rules are not
    incomprehensible. There is no other world except in the
    imaginations of man. The movies are full of these imaginary
    worlds.
    Be good, but kill people or their children or their wives. Rape. Destroy. Love.
    How can this be comprehended?
    The stories that you base your belief on are contradictory, vile and should be expunged from the literature of our modern world.
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    18 May '11 09:31
    Note that when creationists find some scientific piece of evidence that they feel supports their religious beliefs there is no questioning of the methods involved. Yet when the same scientific procedures contradict their religious beliefs, it is of course 'unsound science'.
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    18 May '11 11:10
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The 50,000 year old date appears to be an error note the
    following link:

    http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/quelcoro.htm
    What specifically leads you to believe that the "50,000 year old date appears to be an error"?
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    18 May '11 11:361 edit
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Yes the shift is something that does happen but still does't explain these ice caps in all areas of the planet having a consistant theme of tropical plantlife being found under them in those altitudes.
    Also found are many, many unearthed animals that were preserved in frozen ice is something to consider too. Many were frozen almost instantly and with u ese plants under it.
    Only the tremendous weight of extreme floodwaters could have done this.
    Only the tremendous weight of extreme floodwaters could have done this.

    This conclusion seems illogical. Is it Thompson's conclusion or your own speculation? Can you provide detail on how this conclusion was arrived at?
  15. Standard memberRJHinds
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    18 May '11 17:39
    Originally posted by amannion
    Be good, but kill people or their children or their wives. Rape. Destroy. Love.
    How can this be comprehended?
    The stories that you base your belief on are contradictory, vile and should be expunged from the literature of our modern world.
    You stated earlier that the rules were incomprehensible.
    God's rules are:
    1. Worship the creator God only.
    2. Don't make an idol.
    3. Don't take the name of the Lord God in vain.
    (That is, considering the authority of God of little importance.)
    4. Rest one day of the week doing no work.
    5. Honor you father and your mother.
    6. Do not murder.
    7. Do not commit adultery.
    8. Do not steal.
    9. Do not give false witness against anyone.
    10. Do not covet anything belonging to someone else.

    Then Jesus gave us the rule to love our neighbor by doing unto
    others as we would have them do unto us. Jesus said that we
    should even love our enemies and that we should not lust after
    a women. These are difficult to do but not incomprehensible.

    Rape and destruction is due to the fact man does not follow these
    rules. The Holy Bible gives stories of what has happened as a
    result of this disobedience. You believe the stories are contradictory
    and vile because you do not understand the stories or the purpose of
    them. There are important lessions to be learned from them and I
    do not think it would benefit the modern world by expunging them
    from the literature.
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